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PREMIUM-VS-REGULAR GAS FOR 2024 GT??

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Just a little FYI, California has at least two refineries shutting down soon......Valero, and Phillips 66. One this October and one next April, I think it is. So, get ready to pay MORE for gas in that beautiful liberal state.
We both know gas is going to get more expensive regardless. I live in a very conservative province, The federal government repealed its carbon tax, cutting like 30% of the cost of gas at the pumps, and oh look at that, they went down briefly but are slowly creeping back up, because reasons.

Also you won't find many libs owning oil refineries and gas stations. I wonder if those refineries are shutting down because its more cost effective to abandon them for tax reasons than it is to keep them compliant with environmental regulations or paying the labour/material cost to repair whatevers worn.

But hey, only liberal cucks want to breathe clean air, amirite? When can we bring back leaded gasoline, it was so good for everyone and think of all the timing advance we could run.
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We both know gas is going to get more expensive regardless. I live in a very conservative province, The federal government repealed its carbon tax, cutting like 30% of the cost of gas at the pumps, and oh look at that, they went down briefly but are slowly creeping back up, because reasons.

Also you won't find many libs owning oil refineries and gas stations. I wonder if those refineries are shutting down because its more cost effective to abandon them for tax reasons than it is to keep them compliant with environmental regulations or paying the labour/material cost to repair whatevers worn.

But hey, only liberal cucks want to breathe clean air, amirite? When can we bring back leaded gasoline, it was so good for everyone and think of all the timing advance we could run.
Not mention that Philips refinery supplies fuel to Nevada and Arizona too. But any excuse to blame California for something right?
 

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For regular highway driving, in my testing, Regular gas gives you the best mileage. V8s are really forgiving in what you put in them. If you need to race somebody, then that's another story.
 

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It isn't a given that gas prices will continue to go up, at least in the states. Gas prices are actually going down right now.

Yesterday, ANWR drilling was opened back up after the utterly stupid Biden administration shut it down for drilling. Drilling there has nothing to do with killing wildlife as has been proven. It is purely a political "feel good" issue. The Alaska pipeline areas have actually seen an increase in the caribou herds and other wildlife.

Gas prices are driven, for the most part by supply and demand with supply affecting the price of oil, therefore gas. The previous administration tried to cripple domestic supply and succeeded both domestically and internationally so we would all be forced to buy electric vehicles. That isn't going to happen for a lot of reasons. Ceasing the export of LNG has no logic or intelligent reasoning behind it. It hurt both Europe and the U. S.

California can expect higher gas prices in the future because at least two refineries have plans to shut down soon due to over-regulation. They are getting what they voted for.
 

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What if they don't drink wine.
Isn’t funny how every big city’s run so smooth. Taxes you the most on everything , charges you the most for everything . Has the biggest deficit, worst crime, worst education, most corruption,
Opens their doors to everyone and gives away free money to losers that are lazy.
Love the Liberal ways! lol
Maybe Fat Pritker from the wonderful state of Illinois can be next president!
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Isn’t funny how every big city’s run so smooth. Taxes you the most on everything , charges you the most for everything . Has the biggest deficit, worst crime, worst education, most corruption,
Opens their doors to everyone and gives away free money to losers that are lazy.
Love the Liberal ways! lol
Maybe Fat Pritker from the wonderful state of Illinois can be next president!
Lmao
You are right and it's truly a shame. I used to visit your city several times a year "back in the day" and actually looked forward to it. Night time, it was safe there and I truly enjoyed the place, staying in The Drake Hotel and eating downstairs there and other fine places. I hear the Drake is managed by Hilton now. Don't know if that's good or not. It isn't owned by Hilton, which is good.

Today, no way I would go where I went or do what I did there. A lot of business used to go on there that doesn't today. Pritzger is clueless and is part of "the elite". They ruin too much of the country.
They should all have to be in debt to own houses, cars, and go on vacations.
 

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Let's get off the politics please.

The topic is on HP loss with 87 octane.
 

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You are right and it's truly a shame. I used to visit your city several times a year "back in the day" and actually looked forward to it. Night time, it was safe there and I truly enjoyed the place, staying in The Drake Hotel and eating downstairs there and other fine places. I hear the Drake is managed by Hilton now. Don't know if that's good or not. It isn't owned by Hilton, which is good.

Today, no way I would go where I went or do what I did there. A lot of business used to go on there that doesn't today. Pritzger is clueless and is part of "the elite". They ruin too much of the country.
They should all have to be in debt to own houses, cars, and go on vacations.
Yeah, it was a great place years back.
I used to brag about being from Chicago, grew up a city boy.
Now in the burbs and only go for work. It’s not the same.
Sorry about my rant… no more politics back to Mustangs
 

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Reached the 500 some miles mark and today 3 hours on the highway has me at 22 MPG now.
87 degree weather and Engine Temp was around 189-192, transmission under 200 too.
Loving this car.
 

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A little off topic but back in the 90's I had a team of technicians working for me and they regularly drove 1k-2k miles a week servicing clients.
The majority drove Volvo's which at the time literally lasted forever. However there was one major difference between the ~10 techs and it was always a point of discussion over cafe. The topic was the top tier gas vs the cheapest gas, no matter the grade. At some point it became obvious that assuming regular PM was done, the cars using the cheaper gas had more problems than those using the top tier brands. From that point on, I have always used top tier gas and I've never had any fuel related issues on my cars other than the normal sick fuel pump now and then.
Completely unscientific but food for thought.
 

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Almost like it was designed to run on 87... imagine that!

My take on it is that, while you need 91 or higher to realize the full potential of the engine, running it on 87 does not harm the engine as long as you aren't hearing any knocking.

My GT is my DD when I'm not on the bike. Roughly 60 miles round-trip to and from work. I fill up with 87, and have had zero issues in the last year and 11,000 miles.
You think this is bad, ask about oil...
Or fender holes :DDDDD
 

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A little off topic but back in the 90's I had a team of technicians working for me and they regularly drove 1k-2k miles a week servicing clients.
The majority drove Volvo's which at the time literally lasted forever. However there was one major difference between the ~10 techs and it was always a point of discussion over cafe. The topic was the top tier gas vs the cheapest gas, no matter the grade. At some point it became obvious that assuming regular PM was done, the cars using the cheaper gas had more problems than those using the top tier brands. From that point on, I have always used top tier gas and I've never had any fuel related issues on my cars other than the normal sick
Interesting considering that Top Tier gas didn't come out until 2004 so it wasn't around in the 90's
 

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Interesting considering that Top Tier gas didn't come out until 2004 so it wasn't around in the 90's
It was and has been in Europe for years, even with leaded petrol. We had 2 star (90 RON) up to 5 star (101 RON) from the 1960's onwards - prior to that it was a bit vague. After lead was removed we had Premium (95 RON) and Super (97 to 99 RON)
 

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It was and has been in Europe for years, even with leaded petrol. We had 2 star (90 RON) up to 5 star (101 RON) from the 1960's onwards - prior to that it was a bit vague. After lead was removed we had Premium (95 RON) and Super (97 to 99 RON)
I don't think we are talking about the same thing

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