Is it me or is this car tail happy when making fast turns

[Neggytive]

Is it me or will the back of the car try to come around when you take a turn under throttle?

One time I punched it taking a left turn, more of a sweeping left turn from a stop and the tires lit up and not in a gentle way

The second time I was making a U turn, ok my bad too much throttle as I came out of it but they spun and again, not in a gentle way and no traction control intervention

This morning, the roads might have had a little water on them, not much as it was a busy intersection but I was in a hurry and hooked a right turn at 40 ish from the right lane, into the left lane of the other road and about half way thru the turn and I'll admit I was in a hurry, I could feel the back end sliding so I let off on it before it could get tail happy or try to come around.

It is not cold tires as t was 70 degrees plus each time

Or maybe it is just like every other mustang I have ever driven , tail happy

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[Paul's stable]

Is it me or will the back of the car try to come around when you take a turn under throttle?

One time I punched it taking a left turn, more of a sweeping left turn from a stop and the tires lit up and not in a gentle way

The second time I was making a U turn, ok my bad too much throttle as I came out of it but they spun and again, not in a gentle way and no traction control intervention

This morning, the roads might have had a little water on them, not much as it was a busy intersection but I was in a hurry and hooked a right turn at 40 ish from the right lane, into the left lane of the other road and about half way thru the turn and I'll admit I was in a hurry, I could feel the back end sliding so I let off on it before it could get tail happy or try to come around.

It is not cold tires as t was 70 degrees plus each time

Or maybe it is just like every other mustang I have ever driven , tail happy

Don't think it's the car.

 

[dusman59]

Right foot needs driving lessons. Physics are in play.

 

[Alex381]

This is 100% expected behavior for any rear wheel drive car, let alone a Mustang. You need to seriously reconsider what you think you know about driving and go take some classes and behind the wheel instruction on how to drive your car. You will wreck your car if you keep driving it the way you described.

 

[Paddles]

To answer your question;
Yes, the car is tail happy in a turn.
It's even worse if you're on 245s, if roads are wet, if tires are worn, if your rear suspension is worn, or if you're using budget tires. If all of those are true then you'll need to learn a much lighter foot.

 

[Q6543]

Eh, kinda , the IRS isn’t nearly as tail happy as the solid axles were.

I will say, let out early, the drive by wire seems to keep the throttle open a few milliseconds after, don’t want to see anyone have trouble

 

[Yamazuki]

I can't even count how many videos I've seen of guys sending it, over correcting, having it come out the opposite direction, and then plowing into a curb/crowd/tree/light pole or rolling.

There's a reason they call it 'Going full Mustang'!

 

[Upacurb]

Maybe we need to switch user names and location??

 

[MegaMan]

Is it me or will the back of the car try to come around when you take a turn under throttle?

One time I punched it taking a left turn, more of a sweeping left turn from a stop and the tires lit up and not in a gentle way

The second time I was making a U turn, ok my bad too much throttle as I came out of it but they spun and again, not in a gentle way and no traction control intervention

This morning, the roads might have had a little water on them, not much as it was a busy intersection but I was in a hurry and hooked a right turn at 40 ish from the right lane, into the left lane of the other road and about half way thru the turn and I'll admit I was in a hurry, I could feel the back end sliding so I let off on it before it could get tail happy or try to come around.

It is not cold tires as t was 70 degrees plus each time

Or maybe it is just like every other mustang I have ever driven , tail happy

The car is definitely tail happy. Light rear end + RWD + V8 + almost 500 HP = go sideways quickly. This isn’t unique to the Mustang. I learned this when I very first got the car. You gotta be really careful driving this car or any high horsepower car honestly.

Best case scenario is you wreck the car, worst case is you severely hurt/kill yourself or others. Dont do it!!

 

[135Hoser]

Do you have TC/Advancetrac off, or are driving in sport mode?

Sport mode has reduced intervention for how much it will let you slide the back end around.

In normal or wet/slippery mode, it is much more restrained and the car will intervene early if you're getting it sideways / spinning the tires.

Finally, does your car have the limited slip differential? If not I 100% bet it would be a one wheel tire fire.

 

[COBill]

Emboldening mine:

I could feel the back end sliding so I let off on it before it could get tail happy or try to come around.

Be careful when you do that; you've just described the recipe for snap throttle oversteer, when people feel the rear end get a little loose and let off the gas, causing weight transfer to the front, guaranteeing the rear end will lighten and slide.

 

[RDH43]

Loose (tail happy) is fast...

 

[JAM486HP]

Thus the nickname "Crowd Killer" lives on... Not nearly as bad as my 88 Fox with 225Hp, 480+Hp one must still respect that throttle... I love it!

 

[erocker]

Ford doesn't put the best tires on Mustangs. Non-PP GT's tire's are also too skinny for the car.

 

[Alan Applegate]

I have an opinion just like everyone else. That said, there is good evidence why Mustangs are tail happy, and it isn't just GTs!

The traction and stability controls aren't really off even though you turn them off. But doing so changes the dynamics of driving to the point, you'd best know how to really drive! If you want an even larger reality check, unplug the dyno plug which defeats all traction and stability controls. Again, you'd best know how to drive very well when you do. So practice on a very large slab of concrete without any obstacles. When (and if) you do, you're going to be surprised!

The issue here is, the programming is far from ideal for spirited driving with them on or off! To be sure, leaving them on is a sure way to ditch the car with predictable results! The why is simply the fact most driver's reactions to skids is to incorrectly steer and/or brake into them resulting in the inevitable ditching! After all, we're not all Jimmy Stewarts, me included!

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