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The other reason start‑stop is losing its grip is that the industry has moved on to more elegant solutions. Hybrids inherently shut their engines off at low speeds and during idling,

Only because things have moved on as I have mentioned many times before. Hybrids stop and start the engine many times more often than the simple S/S systems used before.

The headline doesn't really match the article
 

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From that article

The other reason start‑stop is losing its grip is that the industry has moved on to more elegant solutions. Hybrids inherently shut their engines off at low speeds and during idling,

Only because things have moved on as I have mentioned many times before. Hybrids stop and start the engine many times more often than the simple S/S systems used before.

The headline doesn't really match the article
Why am I shocked you'd be the first person to respond to that post with a counter argument? And BTW you totally cherry picked that and ignored the rest of the article.
 

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I think Ive said this in this thread before, but I turn off the S/S in the tune when I do them for people and its been a god send. So glad we got that option to kill it for real.
 


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Why am I shocked you'd be the first person to respond to that post with a counter argument? And BTW you totally cherry picked that and ignored the rest of the article.
I cherry picked from something you posted :giggle:

It isn't a counter argument - I was just confirming what you have posted that old style S/S is being left behind.

Read the whole article - so much to cherry pick ...


manufacturers are already de‑emphasizing start‑stop on new models, especially as they roll out hybrid variants that achieve better test‑cycle results without the same customer backlash

EPA’s recommendations for propulsion engines now emphasize strategies like installing fuel‑operated or direct‑fired heaters so that drivers can stay warm without running the main engine, a solution that targets the same problem as start‑stop but without cycling the powertrain on and off. For passenger cars, the shift toward hybrids, plug‑in hybrids, and full EVs effectively bakes idle reduction into the vehicle’s DNA, turning what used to be a bolt‑on feature into a core characteristic of the drivetrain.
 

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I cherry picked from something you posted :giggle:

It isn't a counter argument - I was just confirming what you have posted that old style S/S is being left behind.

Read the whole article - so much to cherry pick ...


manufacturers are already de‑emphasizing start‑stop on new models, especially as they roll out hybrid variants that achieve better test‑cycle results without the same customer backlash

EPA’s recommendations for propulsion engines now emphasize strategies like installing fuel‑operated or direct‑fired heaters so that drivers can stay warm without running the main engine, a solution that targets the same problem as start‑stop but without cycling the powertrain on and off. For passenger cars, the shift toward hybrids, plug‑in hybrids, and full EVs effectively bakes idle reduction into the vehicle’s DNA, turning what used to be a bolt‑on feature into a core characteristic of the drivetrain.
Sir, I didnt write the article. And yes, I read it because im the one that posted it. And I posted it because I thought it was relative to topic here. I didn't post it to agrue with you. But you do you.
 

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I read that the EPA is doing away with the requirement, not soon enough.
 

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Stop/start was actually dangerous in my wife's last car. Our town has a lot of roundabouts, which require instant acceleration to safely take gaps.
Combine S/S with a DSG that shifts into second as soon as you're rolling, add some turbo lag that's accentuated by the shift protocol, and it all got very exciting.
 

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I think I spent more time reading this thread then I spend turning off the button every time I drive the car.
 

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Why am I shocked you'd be the first person to respond to that post with a counter argument? And BTW you totally cherry picked that and ignored the rest of the article.



Agree and it does match the headline to boot....perfectly. Many hybrids basically use the ice engine to charge the battery driven motors anyhow so part time to begin with... lol...


The auto stop has to be one of the greatest Rube Goldberg ideas of this century.
 

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Somehow I got lucky and mine doesn't have it either. I thought I read somewhere that it was a parts availability issue at one point. Whatever it was, I'm eternally grateful for it!
I’m fairly sure mine doesn’t have it, after 3 days in it and a good hour or so going through all the settings I don’t recall the engine ever auto switching off or finding a setting for it now that I come to think about it.

They is an empty button to the left of the My Mustang button, is that where it’s supposed to be? I wonder if that unused button can be customised to something in FORScan.
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