2024 Mustang FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet (by Livinitup)

[GrabThatBlue]

but again, everything posted so far about using non zero values to do the same thing is based on nothing more than conjecture And rumor mongering.

Wrong.

It is based on 2 types of people who deleted the splash screen in 2 different ways.

1. People like you who deleted the seats out of the system.
2. Others who deleted the splash screen without deleting the seats.

This is not based on rumors but based on the description in the Forscan spreadsheet and based on the experience of the people who changed it, just like you.

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[smurfslayer]

Wrong.

It is based on 2 types of people who deleted the splash screen in 2 different ways.

1. People like you who deleted the seats out of the system.
2. Others who deleted the splash screen without deleting the seats.

This is not based on rumors but based on the description in the Forscan spreadsheet and based on the experience of the people who changed it, just like you.

Ok, but what are the alleged side effects and is there any proof?

I can be convinced, but you’ve only shown that more than on value can suppress the belt splash screen, nobody has shown provable benefits to either method here, other than the result.

I‘m simply pointing out that this Forscan mod has taken on rumors, and innuendo posted by folks who —like me—, cannot factually claim a benefit or negative side effect to either way.

@npole. That is your cue to wow us with seat belt and airbag engineering mastery

so far, giant meteor looks more likely
https://www.astronomytrek.com/how-frequently-do-meteorites-strike-the-earth/

 

[Fruitstang]

@smurfslayer I recommend watching the video somewhere on YouTube showing the actual Mustang crashtests.
It is unbelievable how far the dummy flies forward until the seat belt tensioner goes off (actually you can't even identify that it pulls back the seatbelt, it will rather compensate the prolongation of the material).

Found it:

https://youtu.be/rFixaUr4Y18

No seat to me would automatically tell the system there is also no seat belt tensioner to activate, while "no seatbelt sensor" is more likely to activate the corresponding seatbelt tensioner just to make sure.

So you want evidence? Either an engineer at Ford who was involved in the control strategy programming can tell, or somebody performs a crash test similar to the official ones.

 

[Sofa King]

I can't understand why looking at the seatbelt screen for an entire minute every time you start the car is so annoying/inconvenient for so many people. I get in start the car and put on the seatbelt, I usually wait until the car idles down from the high idle at start (a minute or two), by the time I pull out of the garage that screen is gone. What's so hard about that? I can see this as an issue if you choose not to wear a seatbelt (people still do that?) as the screen won't go away. Unchecking the checkbox in the list of screens in the menu does this for me... not sure if different locations/production dates do it different, I have 9-23 built US car.

 

[npole]

Great! Ladies and gentlemen, we have an internet certified, genuine expert on modern vehicle seat belt pre tensioning and airbag expert right here ready to enlighten the great unwashed.

It's features available on modern cars that any car enthusiast would know. You don't need to be an "engineer". Pre-tensioning and airbag deployment works in combination with the seatbelt sensor (fastened), seat occupied and pre-collision sensors (when available).
If you mess with such sensors, there's different possible scenarios (which we don't know, hence the "worries"):

. Everything works as expected, because those sensors are monitored by a separate module that isn't directly connected with those editable modules (best scenario);
. Changing the sensors behavior or their presence will affect the vehicle safety with possible consequences:

- Seatbelts won't be tensioned in a crash, but the airbag will deploy: in a frontal impact, you gonna smash your head into the airbag at high speed, ending with serious injuries or worse;
- Seatbelts won't be tensioned and the airbag won't deploy: similarly to the above scenario, it'll be like driving a 70's car (in terms of safety), this could affect also the later airbags;

You don't know which of this scenarios will be true until you'll face the consequences.

As someone said, it's your car (and your life). But if you have an accident with a passenger and the passenger will be injured (or worse) because you tampered with the vehicle safety, you'll face the jail (here.. i dunno in your country), and the remorse (if you have any).

I don't care if you act like a 12yo, I'm not anymore, and as said you can do whatever you want with your car, but this is a public forum and pretending that there's ZERO risks doing this, is not the right approach. This is not about the dashboard colors, playing with anything that is related to the vehicle safety is no joke. So stop joking, we can discuss as adults, this is not a nursery.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

Ok, but what are the alleged side effects and is there any proof?

I can be convinced, but you’ve only shown that more than on value can suppress the belt splash screen, nobody has shown provable benefits to either method here, other than the result.

This question is already answered a couple of times to you today. Not only by me.

The issue is, you don't care how other people think and how other people make their decisions, so you ignored it. And now you are asking about it again?

Just read back if you really cared.

 

[A.alansari]

I can't understand why looking at the seatbelt screen for an entire minute every time you start the car is so annoying/inconvenient for so many people. I get in start the car and put on the seatbelt, I usually wait until the car idles down from the high idle at start (a minute or two), by the time I pull out of the garage that screen is gone. What's so hard about that? I can see this as an issue if you choose not to wear a seatbelt (people still do that?) as the screen won't go away. Unchecking the checkbox in the list of screens in the menu does this for me... not sure if different locations/production dates do it different, I have 9-23 built US car.

Its not the splash screen that you can skip there is a splash screen you can't skip at all it will appear if you have your seatbelt on then you remove the seatbelt the only way for this splash screen to go away you have to open the door or put the seatbelt on which is annoying if this only appears while the car is moving I won't mind it but it will happen even if the car still parked

 

[GrabThatBlue]

not sure if different locations/production dates do it different, I have 9-23 built US car.

I'm also not sure about it.

The only thing I know is

- Never heard a US spec person say that it didn't work after the change.
- My Canadian spec didn't work after the change.
- European spec worked after a change except 1 person. So I don't know if that one person made a mistake, didn't check the box in the screen to disable it, or he imported a US spec to Europe.

 

[smurfslayer]

No, it hasn’t been answered with evidence, it’s been alleged. Y’all keep saying the sky is falling but only provide opinions. Who’s pretending here and acting like a 12 YO?

its not me for asking for, you know, FACTS.
I’m the one who is convince-able here, the rest of you aren’t adding anything more than internet opinion and here is something that may sting, but is true:

your opinion is no more, or less significant than mine, or anyone else’s.

I don’t know everything and concede there may be a better way. Some of you are unwilling to admit you might be wrong.

at least @Fruitstang admits this. Kudos for at least advocating his position and being an adult

So you want evidence? Either an engineer at Ford who was involved in the control strategy programming can tell, or somebody performs a crash test similar to the official ones.

Let’s elevate this past where we are now. We’re ALL guessing here without factual data to back up any side effects this seat belt splash removal may, or may not cause. Until someone comes through with actual data, anyone asserting otherwise is being untruthful.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

No, it hasn’t been answered with evidence, it’s been alleged. Y’all keep saying the sky is falling but only provide opinions. Who’s pretending here and acting like a 12 YO?

its not me for asking for, you know, FACTS.
I’m the one who is convince-able here, the rest of you aren’t adding anything more than internet opinion and here is something that may sting, but is true:

your opinion is no more, or less significant than mine, or anyone else’s.

I don’t know everything and concede there may be a better way. Some of you are unwilling to admit you might be wrong.

at least @Fruitstang admits this. Kudos for at least advocating his position and being an adult




Let’s elevate this past where we are now. We’re ALL guessing here without factual data to back up any side effects this seat belt splash removal may, or may not cause. Until someone comes through with actual data, anyone asserting otherwise is being untruthful.

This is the last time to explain this to you.

We don't need evidence that deleting seats in your car from the system will cause safety issues.

The fact that you also don't have evidence that it won't cause safety issues is the reason why not many people want to go your way.

Maybe I will change it after you crash your car and report back to me that all safety features worked.

 

[npole]

No, it hasn’t been answered with evidence, it’s been alleged. Y’all keep saying the sky is falling but only provide opinions. Who’s pretending here and acting like a 12 YO?

What you don't understand is that while your opinion is equivalent to mine, because none of us will know for sure, unless someone from Ford will confirm how the software works; what I've highlighted is that there's the POSSIBILITY of something "bad" happening, based on a logical deduction; while your opinion is just about "I hope nothing happens" (with no logical reason which will support it).

Since we're talking about our (and our passengers) life, the fact that this possibility exists, it's enough (for some people) to not play with it, unless there's some sort of confirmation (which is unlikely to happens, since I don't see anyone doing a "crash test", nor an engineer from Ford coming here talking about it).

Do you accept the risk? Great, that's enough. There's no need to convince the others with idiotic sentences, not based on facts.

 

[sky5oh]

No, it hasn’t been answered with evidence, it’s been alleged. Y’all keep saying the sky is falling but only provide opinions. Who’s pretending here and acting like a 12 YO?

its not me for asking for, you know, FACTS.
I’m the one who is convince-able here, the rest of you aren’t adding anything more than internet opinion and here is something that may sting, but is true:

your opinion is no more, or less significant than mine, or anyone else’s.

I don’t know everything and concede there may be a better way. Some of you are unwilling to admit you might be wrong.

at least @Fruitstang admits this. Kudos for at least advocating his position and being an adult




Let’s elevate this past where we are now. We’re ALL guessing here without factual data to back up any side effects this seat belt splash removal may, or may not cause. Until someone comes through with actual data, anyone asserting otherwise is being untruthful.

If you want to be the guinea pig in this experiment of if the airbags do not go off or if they do in an accident that could be fatal without airbags then feel free to trick the car into having no seats. But don’t take any passengers in your car that aren’t aware your airbags might not work.

What everyone else is saying is we are not willing to risk the lives of our passengers or us just for some data on the internet, therefore there will not be any “proof” without someone stupid enough to test it.

This is all on you if you change the code to disable the seats. Which is why everyone in here is so against it as there could be dire consequences therefore “the sky is falling” responses. If you want the safe way to do it to not have to worry about the splash screen lets say when you’re in park you could get some seat belt extenders, some use it for not wearing seatbelts but it’s a great way to unbuckle let’s say at the gas station and still be able to clear your current trip 1 without having to rebuckle up.

This thread will be opinion based until someone reckless enough does it and finds out what happens in an accident. So again we do not recommend trying to trick the car into thinking you don’t have seats lol.

 

[smurfslayer]

This is the last time to explain this to you.

We don't need evidence that deleting seats in your car from the system will cause safety issues.

The fact that you also don't have evidence that it won't cause safety issues is the reason why not many people want to go your way.

Maybe I will change it after you crash your car and report back to me that all safety features worked.

I see, we’ve gone from “I’m right and you’re wrong to I’m right and you’re wrong”.
You’re simply not worth the time to discuss anything with. To the extent that may have welcomed you here or tried to assist you with anything, my apologies for making that mistake.

I hope you’re able to test out your airbag sometime soon and prove your point.

 

[erasat]

Anyways, if you have the WACM module, this is what the lines are.

725-01-01	1507	4A
725-02-01	00F8	0200	29
725-03-01	0701	0200	3A
725-04-01	80C0	71
725-05-01	0103	0301	3A

Also you need to enable it in BCM

726-59-01

xxxx

xxxx

x1--

Finally received today the Wireless Charger Pad Module, the whole take off kit that I bought on eBay 3 weeks ago. It had everything except the rubber pad but I got a new one from Amazon, not OEM but I think it works and looks better than the OEM one.

Here to confirm that once the pre-wired cable and connector is connected to the Wireless Charger Module, the car recognize it, and after running ForScan and not loading the Saved Profile and let it detects all the modules including the new ones, all the values that you gave me here were already there, so they come preloaded on the module. The only one that needs to change is the BCM one, the 726-59-01.

So far so good, it definitely looks better, at least for me, and it recognizes the phone and start charging on par with the ones on my Ioniq 5 Limited and Tesla Model Y.

Thank you.

 

[sky5oh]

Finally received today the Wireless Charger Pad Module, the whole take off kit that I bought on eBay 3 weeks ago. It had everything except the rubber pad but I got a new one from Amazon, not OEM but I think it works and look better than the OEM one.

Here to confirm that once the pre-wired cable and connector is connected to the Wireless Charger Module, the car recognize it, and after running ForScan and not loading the Saved Profile and let it detects all the modules including the new ones, all the values that you gave me here were already there, so they come preloaded on the module. The only one that needs to change is the BCM one, the 726-59-01.

So far so good, it definitely looks better, at least for me, and it recognizes the phone and start charging on par with the ones on my Ioniq 5 Limited and Tesla Model Y.

Thank you.

Bet imma have to do that next lol appreciate the update

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