S650 Coyote V8: Differences in GT vs Dark Horse

[MustangMac67]

read of rear suspension based on 350….

Where did you read that?

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[Dub347sbf]

Thought I remember the Exhaust Manifolds changing. Or maybe it was something to do with the Godzilla Engine.

Ford Performance will be offering the Factory Active Exhaust for 18+ Mustangs that came without it.

I think the exhaust manifold changes are to both engines.

read of rear suspension based on 350….

This thread is about the coyote engine differences between the two models. Here is the overall differences thread. https://www.mustang7g.com/forums/threads/gt-or-dark-horse-the-important-differences.156327/

 

[Fidelity]

Let me find video feed. YouTube video that was very informative! I’ll send to you to link on other thread!

Where did you read that?

 

[MustangMac67]

Let me find video feed. YouTube video that was very informative! I’ll send to you to link on other thread!

Thanks!

 

[Spectre]

Motor trend says the camshafts are “strengthened”. (https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024-ford-mustang-dark-horse-first-look-review/amp/)
But I feel they will have better specs for more power.

Motor Trend says a lot of things...

 

[tdstuart]

Motor Trend says a lot of things...

There is general info that the camshafts are strengthened. I’ll look later for more sources.

 

[Dub347sbf]

There is general info that the camshafts are strengthened. I’ll look later for more sources.

I would love to see more sources, as I cannot find any other than MT. The only other article that talks about the engine changes seems to point toward having the same camshafts. That was a quote by Ed Krenz, Chief Nameplate Engineer for the Mustang, that I posted at the beginning stating the only difference was the connecting rods.

 

[Mazman]

I believe Carlos also mentioned it in his video

 

[Dub347sbf]

I believe Carlos also mentioned it in his video

He also says it has forged pistons, and Ford doesn't mention that anywhere. Doesn't sound like he is correct.

If you go by Ed Krenz's quote, the only changes are the forged rods. Which is why I am hoping for a higher redline.

 

[Dub347sbf]

Another article eith Ed Krenz on Dark Horse Coyote

Another article where connecting rods and higher cylinder pressures are mentioned. No Camshaft changes are mentioned. What does higher cylinder pressure equate to, more rpm?

Here is the podcast from Mecum with Ed Krenz talking about the Dark Horse engine.
Mecum podcast with Ed Krenz

 

[Gogoggansgo]

Motor Trend says a lot of things...

Strengthened camshafts mean nothing honestly might as well say they’re shiner Lmfao

 

[Gogoggansgo]

Another article eith Ed Krenz on Dark Horse Coyote

Another article where connecting rods and higher cylinder pressures are mentioned. No Camshaft changes are mentioned. What does higher cylinder pressure equate to, more rpm?

Here is the podcast from Mecum with Ed Krenz talking about the Dark Horse engine.
Mecum podcast with Ed Krenz

the mustang gt we can pretty much assume will be close too 500hp, the big wtf is the dark horse. They haven’t been transparent at all about exactly what they’ve changed other than higher cylinder pressures which doesn’t exactly make a lot of sense unless they’ve done other modifications that they’re not telling the public about. I find it all really really odd and it’s the same story about the new 6.8 gas engine in the super duty’s, ford isn’t coming clear on any details even going as far to say it’s got a forged crank then showing a picture of it being cast

i hate this crap just tells us what you have going on and then show the numbers when ready this is just bad fore
Play lmfao

 

[Vertex]

Have you seen a dark horse dash yet?
NOPE
So it also wouldn’t surprise me if they push it out a few hundred rpm

I thought I saw a photo showing 7500 rpm redline in one, however, I do not recall where I saw the photo or if it was from a video. Will report back if I happen upon it again with a link.

 

[guzie]

Probably higher RPM in the dark horse and with that more power. That’s what differentiated the power gain in the boss 302. higher breathing intake and better valve train.

 

[Dub347sbf]

Probably higher RPM in the dark horse and with that more power. That’s what differentiated the power gain in the boss 302. higher breathing intake and better valve train.

True, but there is no evidence of a higher breathing intake and better valve train for the DH. Only upgraded rods and tuning announced so far. Hoping for a redline bump too, but no confirmation.

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