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That is all well and good as this protects you from dealer price shenanigans. But it will likely not do anything for a increase due to a Federal tax.
I completely agree with you. However, it becomes a breach of contract as the dealer is no longer able to sell you a vehicle for the agreed upon price. Creates a bit of a predicament.
 
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Question. So does your order sheet show the GG tax?
The pic below is the price guide my salesman printed out when I ordered my GT. It shows a gas guzzler tax for Darkhorse but not GT. I optioned my car based on the info provided to me & signed a purchase agreement for a price that does not include a GG tax. Itā€™ll be interesting to see how it plays out.

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The pic below is the price guide my salesman printed out when I ordered my GT. It shows a gas guzzler tax for Darkhorse but not GT. I optioned my car based on the info provided to me & signed a purchase agreement for a price that does not include a GG tax. Itā€™ll be interesting to see how it plays out.

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This is what you will most likely hear. ā€œWe have not changed the price of you carā€œ. ā€œWe are ā€œcollectingā€ a Gas Guzzler tax and forwarding it to the Federal Government. The word collecting gets them out of any agreement they have with you. Ask me how I know. :giggle:
 
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This is what you will most likely hear. ā€œWe have not changed the price of you carā€œ. ā€œWe are ā€œcollectingā€ a Gas Guzzler tax and forwarding it to the Federal Government. The word collecting gets them out of any agreement they have with you. Ask me how I know. :giggle:
Yep. Thatā€™s exactly what Iā€™m expecting. I just wish I wouldā€™ve found out when I still had time to change my order. šŸ˜
 


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I completely agree with you. However, it becomes a breach of contract as the dealer is no longer able to sell you a vehicle for the agreed upon price. Creates a bit of a predicament.
I think you are wrong.

The dealer agrees with you on the price of the car. Not price of tax.

Tax comes after the price of the car, just like the state tax.

When you want to buy a 60k car and the government decides to higher the state tax, it is not the dealers fault. The price on the car that you agreed with the dealer is still the same.

The only thing that has changed is the money you have to pay to the government.
 
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I think you are wrong.

The dealer agrees with you on the price of the car. Not price of tax.

Tax comes after the price of the car, just like the state tax.

When you want to buy a 60k car and the government decides to higher the state tax, it is not the dealers fault. The price on the car that you agreed with the dealer is still the same.

The only thing that has changed is the money you have to pay to the government.
I hear what youā€™re saying but a gas guzzler tax is built into the MSRP of the car & doesnā€™t ā€œcome after the price of the carā€ like you suggested above.
 

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I hear what youā€™re saying but a gas guzzler tax is built into the MSRP of the car & doesnā€™t ā€œcome after the price of the carā€ like you suggested above.
I agree. Itā€™s not paid after the fact. Itā€™s built into the price of the vehicle.
 

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I think you are wrong.

The dealer agrees with you on the price of the car. Not price of tax.

Tax comes after the price of the car, just like the state tax.

When you want to buy a 60k car and the government decides to higher the state tax, it is not the dealers fault. The price on the car that you agreed with the dealer is still the same.

The only thing that has changed is the money you have to pay to the government.
The dealer can no longer offer me the vehicle at our agreed upon price. Gas guzzler tax is included in the price of the vehicle, not paid after the fact.

My dealer does not collect any tax from me at the time of sale, and Iā€™m responsible for that at the time of registration. If what you said is true, that means Iā€™d pay gas guzzler tax at registration
 

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Plus, because the GG tax is built into the MSRP youā€™re paying sales tax on it too. A tax on top of a tax
The GG tax is shown as a line item option. It is not built into the MSRP. Iā€˜m not sure if you pay sales tax on it.

Edit: I meant to say that the GG tax is not built into the base price, not the MSRP. My bad.
 
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The GG tax is shown as a line item option. It is not built into the MSRP. Iā€˜m not sure if you pay sales tax on it.
The Mach1 window sticker below shows GG tax as a line item but also includes it as part of the final $63,835 MSRP. In Indiana I would have to pay 7% sales tax on the $63,835 price of the car. That makes that $1000 GG tax $1070 for me at least

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The dealer can no longer offer me the vehicle at our agreed upon price. Gas guzzler tax is included in the price of the vehicle, not paid after the fact.

My dealer does not collect any tax from me at the time of sale, and Iā€™m responsible for that at the time of registration. If what you said is true, that means Iā€™d pay gas guzzler tax at registration
Then back out of the deal, the dealer should have zero issues selling your build to another.
 

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Then back out of the deal, the dealer should have zero issues selling your build to another.
Thatā€™s what Iā€™m going to find out from them tomorrow. They state the deposit is non-refundable, so weā€™ll see what they say.
 
 




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