Mustang Hybrid (S650) Announced, Debuts in 2020

[mustang_guy]

The target audience this kind of thing is made for isn't exactly into hot rodding and modifying cars..the most they do is different wheels and maybe a graphic.

Right. Which is would be a sad day if thats what becomes of the mustang.

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[SterlingStangMan]

Just wait for the self-driving Mustang LOL!

 

[1320']

Right. Which is would be a sad day if thats what becomes of the mustang.

It's just going to be an option.

The Mustang was designed to appeal to everyone, and have something for everyone. This just carries on that principle.

 

[mustang_guy]

Personally none. But it's not my crowd, and I dont really got to cars and coffee. But lets be honest even a ICE has design thresholds, and safety margins, Increasing performance with a tune is easy. You just compromise some of those known variables.

They only thing you would have to do to a Tesla is draw more current from the battery, then deal with the heat and energy consumption differences.

There is alot of plug and play potential, and the motor units are modular and very easy to swap.

I imagine by the time the Tesla 3 hits the market and those economies of scale change, well see more open modding.

I dont go to cars and coffee meets either. Id have heard about a modded tesla by now on 1320. I still think thats a horrible platform for a performance car with a history like the mustang. For something not known as a very affordable performance platform without the history that makes sense. Having more a lot electronics is not something we need more of in something like a mustang. For people that want that crap buy a European car. They are partly shitboxes because of it too. All i deal withis DI woes and electronic gremlins at Bmw. Hell its to the point on new bmws you cant change the rear brake pads without communications to computers to release the rear calipers. To my knowledge we are the only people able to service the brakes. Do you like that much hindering things on your car? I sure as hell dont. Too much technology can be a bad thing.

 

[mustang_guy]

It's just going to be an option.

The Mustang was designed to appeal to everyone, and have something for everyone. This just carries on that principle.

God i hope its just an option

 

[68fbjjz109]

The big three (3) have volume sales Mercedes could only wish for, the cancellation of Air Force One does have bearing on this discussion since you think fuel cell technology is not affordable for the masses. Business men in the real world would never spend the monies our Government pays for technology

People complain about the 1k difference in the Camaro and Mustang. This has to be affordable.

I never said it wasn't affordable to the masses or that's how I think it should be. I said 10 year old aerospace fuel cell tech isn't, UUUUuuuge Economies of scale difference. Aerospace technology doesn't have the same constraints that automobiles do.

There is a little joke in the automotive realm.

Aviation is shit engineering, with fantastic materials & budgets
Automotive is fantastic engineering, with shit materials & no budget


Volume and economies of scale; there it is again. The big three have volume that Mercedes could only hope for one big reason; because the're cheap. They only put technology that is matured for the automotive realm in their vehicles, after companies like Mercedes and BMW have done it for some time.

The only reason the F150 being aluminum is a big deal is because of it's volume. That's it.

 

[Stormtrooper5.0]

Just wait for the self-driving Mustang LOL!

There already is...its an automatic Mustang.

 

[cyandhappiness]

Never thought I would have to pay 50k for a new one until I read it'll be a hybrid

 

[Czs550]

Just waiting for the day when i go to my local drag strip and see a mustang and camaro at the starting line getting ready to face off. Both hybrids with tiny little motors. American muscle at its finest huh? What a sad future.:doh:

 

[1320']

Just waiting for the day when i go to my local drag strip and see a mustang and camaro at the starting line getting ready to face off. Both hybrids with tiny little motors. American muscle at its finest huh? What a sad future.:doh:

Then go find yourself a nice 92 GT, plop a 408W into it, build it up and spank both their asses with a easy low 10 second pass.

Seriously...just because there will be a hybrid option doesn't mean it's going to somehow erase all the years of V8 powered Mustangs..including the V8 Mustang it'll be available beside.

 

[Marino]

I still want to know why Ford hasn't even talked about the 2018 Mustang. Kind of makes me think the worst.

 

[Norm Peterson]

What I find hilarious is that people tend to forget perspective. I'm sure these heated arguments were happening when discussing the switch from leaded to fully unleaded gasoline as a standard. Or getting rid of the carbureted engine. Or putting ABS in cars standard. Or requiring passenger air bags.

None of those things changed the way cars drove. Pretty close to transparent.

Also, a multi-billion dollar company like Ford can engineer a car. I find it funny these forum "product specialists" who think that Ford hasn't taken into consideration their core market for the Mustang. If anything, their strategy has expanded the Mustang buyer, not the other way around.

It's not as simple as "expanding the Mustang buyer", which I assume means "expanding the Mustang buyer pool".

With something like this, you probably are expanding the appeal of a Mustang out to groups that might currently be less interested in owning one. But for sure you're contracting some segments of the existing buyer base if EV and hybrid intrusion comes at any sacrifice in what a Mustang has traditionally been.

It's all a matter of progress. You don't have to be afraid of it. Give your opinion, yes, but we're all here for the same reason.

All I can say is just wait until some future "progress" either eliminates something that matters a lot to you, or introduces something that you have your own reasons for not wanting. And "I just don't like the way it drives/I don't like the way you have to drive it" are perfectly valid reasons because anything about a car that rubs you the wrong way every time you get in it to go somewhere . . . doesn't make for a good start for the drive to get there.

I've been through that already. More than once. But I'm not going to open it up any wider than to say that it amounts to the car company - maybe even your car company of choice - abandoning you. Not exactly a happy situation.


Norm

 

[Khyber]

I still want to know why Ford hasn't even talked about the 2018 Mustang. Kind of makes me think the worst.

Because it's not the 9th. Yet.....

 

[Clink]

Because it's not the 9th. Yet.....

Didn't I see you got air ride? Have you installed it yet?

 

[Norm Peterson]

Let's just agree to disagree. Maybe sometime we will have this debate over a beer :cheers:

It'd a bit of a drive for me, too, but if the place where everybody knows your name is still there let's make it downstairs at the Hampshire House in Boston.

but its too exhausting to do on an internet forum. At the end of the day like most issues, the truth is a blend of both sides and neither party is 100% right, i just believe the truth lies closer to my side

Y'know, I might have once felt the same way . . . now I'm more likely to look for exceptions that prove the rule that when humans are involved there are no absolutes.


Norm

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