Dark Horse vs 'Hurricane' Charger vs Hellcat - ThrottleHouse

[GeekGT5.0]

Agreed, especially if they can find a way to do it without making it insanely heavy or expensive. My daily is a maverick hybrid. If Ford can make a 4 door hybrid truck made out of steel weigh only about 3700 lbs, they can make a mustang hybrid light if they really want to. Maybe with a next gen optimized with a new platform or something.

We all know the 5.0 pulls like a mofo at higher RPMs but isn't quite as peppy down low. An AWD mustang hybrid with the combo of instant electric torque, the 5.0, and 10 speed would be a freaking monster. Plus it would be more usable year round, and get better fuel economy for people using it to commute.

It's just wins across the board. As long as they prevent the engine from sounded muffled like some hybrids, and minimized the understeer that you get with some AWD cars, I'd love it.

The day the mustang is AWD and/or a hybrid is when i stop being a fan. AWD is what you do when you can't engineer a proper rear end. hybrids are for hypermiling. Most people here bitch about start/stop, they do not care about mpg. One of the cool things about a mustang starting with the fox bodies especially 1988+ was a hot rod that got over 20mpg because that's good enough. A mustang that gets 30-40mpg would absolutely suck because everything on it to do it would destroy it from being a pony car.

Electrics will eventually all be banned from drag strips, so I don't want that added unnecessary weight to the car, i would rather the mustang become smaller.

You can play with aero, you can play with the engine. But the time you start taking parts off a prius to put on a mustang to "boost mpg" im done, american muscle is over.

I'd much rather the car become smaller, maybe viper sized, corvette sized. But the thing about the mustang is it's a GT car first. It would need to keep it's GT qualities intact. It would need to be "comfortable enough" for cross country road tripping or the whole point of the car is ruined.

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[GeekGT5.0]

That six pack sounds terrible, I wonder what aftermarket exhausts will sound like on it

Im not even sure how they made it sound so bad. Like it's butt terrible. My 2013 jeep wrangler with a flowmaster stinger sounded much better. LOL

These cars while decently quick, will get laughed at when they goto car meets. Like it loses so much fun factor with exhaust that sounds like that. Just lazy stellantis alfa romeo engineering.

I mean at the end of the day the new charger is just a STLA large platform Alfa Romeo *really* and they literally spent ZERO effort on exhaust note.

It's the same on my 2025 jeep gladiator, they put such a big resonator and muffler on it, it literally makes NO exhaust sound. Crazy lazy engineering to me. Granted the rest of the Gladiator is freakin' amazing, when it comes to exhaust it's like stellantis has brought that EU style make it quiet as can be to the US.

 

[Katastrophe]

One thing that Charger has that I would KILL for on a new Mustang...GLASS ROOF.

Oh, how I miss that on my 2013...

EDIT: Also...can we just stop and think about what Dodge is going to do with the Charger? Possibly throw a Hellcat powertrain back in it, right? An IRON BLOCK blown V8. That car will weigh in excess of 5k pounds!

 

[Frogdog1]

Look at what was recently done with CAFE standards. It isn't good but it is the future.

 

[ZXMustang]

Problem you have now is since its factory turbo charged, Burger motorsports has a JB4 piggyback system for it now. RIP all other cars. For those of you that dont know what a JB4 is, its a simple box that you plug inline with a few sensors. They use factory harness plugs and it might take you 20 minutes to install. Then control with your phone using their JB4 app. And you can pick the map you want to run depending on the fuel you use. It couldnt be easier. Can be removed and car back to stock just as fast with nothing left to show for it. BM makes a JB4 for just about every factory turbo charged car/truck/SUV and the results are outstanding in most cases.

 

[canzaecho]

The acceleration is no surprise imo but I would be curious about the longevity of the Hurricane especially those tuned at max boost like the video above.

Turbo, Hybrid or EV AWD cars are a cheat code in terms of launching.

That said, Dodge should bring back the Hemi.

 

[DeluxeStang]

The day the mustang is AWD and/or a hybrid is when i stop being a fan. AWD is what you do when you can't engineer a proper rear end. hybrids are for hypermiling. Most people here bitch about start/stop, they do not care about mpg. One of the cool things about a mustang starting with the fox bodies especially 1988+ was a hot rod that got over 20mpg because that's good enough. A mustang that gets 30-40mpg would absolutely suck because everything on it to do it would destroy it from being a pony car.

Electrics will eventually all be banned from drag strips, so I don't want that added unnecessary weight to the car, i would rather the mustang become smaller.

You can play with aero, you can play with the engine. But the time you start taking parts off a prius to put on a mustang to "boost mpg" im done, american muscle is over.

I'd much rather the car become smaller, maybe viper sized, corvette sized. But the thing about the mustang is it's a GT car first. It would need to keep it's GT qualities intact. It would need to be "comfortable enough" for cross country road tripping or the whole point of the car is ruined.

You're having too narrow of a view on hybrids. There are fuel efficiency hybrids, like my maverick, which aren't insanely fast, but get 50 mpg. Then there are performance hybrids, like the holy trinity.

We seem to have our wires crossed because you seem to think I'm saying turn the mustang into a hypermiling fuel economy focused hybrid, I'm not, I'm envisioning Ford's version of a McLaren p1, in the form of a somewhat affordable muscle car. A hybrid system that pairs a 5.0 with electric motors in the standard gt, making at least like 600 hp. 0-60 in the low 3s or even sub 3s, and improved cornering as well.

That won't appeal to everyone, but I'd argue most mustang faithful would find a car like that badass.

 

[DeluxeStang]

The day the mustang is AWD and/or a hybrid is when i stop being a fan. AWD is what you do when you can't engineer a proper rear end. hybrids are for hypermiling. Most people here bitch about start/stop, they do not care about mpg. One of the cool things about a mustang starting with the fox bodies especially 1988+ was a hot rod that got over 20mpg because that's good enough. A mustang that gets 30-40mpg would absolutely suck because everything on it to do it would destroy it from being a pony car.

Electrics will eventually all be banned from drag strips, so I don't want that added unnecessary weight to the car, i would rather the mustang become smaller.

You can play with aero, you can play with the engine. But the time you start taking parts off a prius to put on a mustang to "boost mpg" im done, american muscle is over.

I'd much rather the car become smaller, maybe viper sized, corvette sized. But the thing about the mustang is it's a GT car first. It would need to keep it's GT qualities intact. It would need to be "comfortable enough" for cross country road tripping or the whole point of the car is ruined.

Ford is running into the same issue gm did with the c7, and that's the fact that you can only make a front engine, RWD car so powerful before it becomes undrivable. If Ford wants to keep improving performance, they can go mid-engine like c8, or AWD with the current front engine layout. The s650 would really struggle to put down over 1,000 hp around a road course.

 

[broncoboy22]

One thing that Charger has that I would KILL for on a new Mustang...GLASS ROOF.

Oh, how I miss that on my 2013...

EDIT: Also...can we just stop and think about what Dodge is going to do with the Charger? Possibly throw a Hellcat powertrain back in it, right? An IRON BLOCK blown V8. That car will weigh in excess of 5k pounds!

When Ford brings the glass roof option back is when I buy a brand new Mustang again. I’ve been waiting since the S197s left.

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