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Oh, I'm with you...nothing beats a same-same test. However, brand-loyalist tribalism knows no bounds and in the realm of Mustang vs Camaro/Everything, it'll never end. Besides, a good chunk of numbers/times thrown around by each "camp" are cherry picked from multiple sources, anyway. IMHO, as...

Wow. Was not expecting that lap time, honestly. Yes, caveats aplenty (not same day, time, season, etc) with comparing to other cars...but beating the ZL1 1LE? That's pretty insane. Keep in mind the "ZLE" weighs LESS than the DH HP and makes 150 more HP and WELL over 200 more TQ. I guess the...

Like many of you, I wasn't a fan of the mismatched comparison either. SS VS GT or 1LE vs DH, full stop...no point in going any further than that. Does the Camaro bring better VALUE to the table. 100%. Up here in Canada a 2SS 1LE and DH/HP are about $11K difference. It's not contest, really...

Yeah, not sure why they don't have that thing to the mats (or in the right "mode")...and if they did, that shift strategy is YUCK. Also, I am NOT a fan of the top speed being lowered for the S650 models. The S550 GT/PP has the same top speed while the M1 was faster. Makes zero sense. Whether...

OP - Absolutely sickening to hear about this, but unfortunately not uncommon. I've been fighting this kind of stuff since I got into the business and it really is a shame the lengths that toxic-capitalism extends. I'll cut myself off before I rant to the moon about it... Like others have...

Haven't seen this posted yet, so I figured I'd share! 2024 Ford Mustang GT Performance vs. 2023 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack: Bummer, Dude. (motortrend.com)

My version of "bone stock"...is clearly not the same as others, LOL.

You got it! Finally! What a gorgeous looking combo as well!

Was that run made by a horse jockey? Who happens to live in a mineshaft? Which happens to be built in a solid chunk of ice? Jokes aside, I'd love all the details on how they achieved this run. To say those numbers are insane, is an understatement...especially the trap speed. Anyone have any...

So we have two videos regarding this. One with outrageous gains and one without, LOL. Hopefully we can get some more data on this so we can get some consistency with the results.

OP - Don't forget that these cars are tricky to get off the line. They have long gears, with an engine that loves to rev and does it's best at high RPM. That combination requires some serious skill to get the best out of the car...and/or unfortunately, more clutch slip or wheel spin to keep...

Not sure if there is a thread relating to this video or not... Testing Intake Restrictions of the 2024 S650 Mustang GT! - YouTube TLDW: You don't actually need to cut anything if you don't want to. The video gives some great information on how to do it. You could then put it back to stock...

Well, because no one has given you the obligatory, yet... Get in your car...with a camera...AND LET HER RIP! :rockon:

^ Ford frequents these forums right? Maybe someone with some "pull" can get some straight answers? Then again, more and more members will be getting their cars, so hopefully we have someone wind one out on video for us. Otherwise, I'm taking a trip to the dealership and doing a complimentary...

OP - As others have stated, only you can answer that question. However, I think if you make a list of wants/needs and likes/dislikes, it'll help you put your mind at ease. To avoid a long-winded explanation...if you are PURELY after the driving characteristics of the car and don't put much...

Breaking the car in will definitely alter the numbers on a dyno or the timeslip for a run down the strip...but the fix for the lack of RPM/top speed remains to be seen. The soon-to-be-dying competitors don't have them, that's for sure.

Which is why the 10A is such a deadly partner to this engine. Keeps it at max HP damn-near the entire time.

I know I'm beating a dead horse by watching these dyno videos and commenting...but these new cars having a lower redline than advertised and a lower top speed than the S550 is kind of a joke. I really hope there is some "magic number" the computer needs to see at a certain mileage that removes...

Any rear gear ratio starting with a 4 should be a factory option, as far as I'm concerned.

I really hope C&D have both cars (GT and DH) at the next Lightning Lap to really see what the extra cash gets the buyer. Looking at things with money in mind, a base DH without the Handling Pack is a hard sell at nearly $8k (Cdn) over a loaded-to-the-gills GT, IMHO. Which is a damn shame...