2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

[MattMurdock]

Hiding in Plain Sight

You're right not to worry. ;) I'm not sure if anyone else has pointed this out, but I believe TopNotch (Dave Pericak, for the uninitiated) left a clue about the next generation Mustang that many of us have overlooked. In the video he posted on page 28, you can see what is very likely the next generation Mustang (S650), or at least a hint at what Ford has been kicking around. Stop the video at 38 secs in, and you can see it in all its glory. My apologies in advance, if someone has pointed this out already.
TopNotch knows his stuff (for obvious reasons) and is the real deal. :ford::clap2:

Side note: I've been reading the forums long before I became a proud owner of a carryover 2016 Ruby Red Mustang GT (October 2016). I've always loved the 'Stang (I also owned one long ago, which I sold upon the approaching birth of my first child). The Mustang will always be a part of my DNA, no matter the iteration. A true classic.

Honestly I am not that worried. Being able to amoratize R&D, SG&A and profit over more volume will only help the Mustang.

The Camaro didn't really suffer from a performance side. GM just decided to top hat the Alpha Camaro more aggressively than the Zeta and making preventing visibilty improvements.

The only thing that worries me is stock tower height. Alot of the other Ford platforms have high shock towers which drive higher hood profiles. That is the last thing the Mustang needs.

Jason Castriota and some other solid designers are on S650. I have heard a little about where the car is going from a design perspective, should be interesting.

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[Topnotch]

That's the DS E-Tense Concept

 

[Spirit Of Fire]

I’m not even mad that Ford is trying to rip off someone else’s design. At least it’s a great looking design. I hope the next gen mustang looks at least somewhat close to this.

 

[MattMurdock]

D’oh! :doh:My bad. See, TopNotch knows his stuff.

That's the DS E-Tense Concept

 

[MattMurdock]

Indeed!

I hope the next gen mustang looks at least somewhat close to this.

 

[Ace]

I hope not, Pony cars should stay true to their heritage with a more angular and strong appearance. We have more than enough rounded sport coupes

 

[Spirit Of Fire]

I hope not, Pony cars should stay true to their heritage with a more angular and strong appearance. We have more than enough rounded sport coupes

The mustang can’t be stock in the past forever. The next generation will be hybrid, that’s a whole new thing. Accordingly, it should also adopt a whole new design philosophy. We aren’t in the 70s and 80s anymore, it’s time to adapt and appeal to a more broader audience. One of the things I hate about the 18 mustang i its straight and angular facia design, they need to do away with that.

 

[Ace]

The mustang can’t be stock in the past forever. The next generation will be hybrid, that’s a whole new thing. Accordingly, it should also adopt a whole new design philosophy. We aren’t in the 70s and 80s anymore, it’s time to adapt and appeal to a more broader audience. One of the things I hate about the 18 mustang i its straight and angular facia design, they need to do away with that.

I think the 18 front already is going more into the modern sportscoupe and less into the muscular appearance, That's why it's looking worse than before imho. Flat hood, low frontend, very wide grille, sorry but that styling can others do way better than Ford - Saw the BMW Z4 and 8 Series concepts at IAA, absolutely stunning cars.

If Ford wants to build a car that has nothing in common with a Mustang, then maybe they should just give it a new name. But actually customers want the car they already have with a few tweaks instead of complete redesigns, which is why car makers usally don't risk a huge restyling anymore.

 

[millhouse]

The mustang can’t be stock in the past forever. The next generation will be hybrid, that’s a whole new thing. Accordingly, it should also adopt a whole new design philosophy. We aren’t in the 70s and 80s anymore, it’s time to adapt and appeal to a more broader audience. One of the things I hate about the 18 mustang i its straight and angular facia design, they need to do away with that.

The heritage of the mustang is what sells it...and any design cues that allow it to maintain any semblance of the sort will continue. People have nearly always chosen the mustang over the competition despite it nearly always being slower. Let that sink in.

 

[EJS2016]

The heritage of the mustang is what sells it...and any design cues that allow it to maintain any semblance of the sort will continue. People have nearly always chosen the mustang over the competition despite it nearly always being slower. Let that sink in.

Agreed.
I have always believed for the great majority of consumers, styling rather than performance has been the factor or variable that determines a vehicle purchase.
The history of Mustang styling has always incorporated some element of the iconic first generation design.
With that being said, I have a strong sense that the D6R based S650 may be a true game changer (for the Mustang) regarding engineering, technology, performance and design language.

 

[Spirit Of Fire]

The heritage of the mustang is what sells it...and any design cues that allow it to maintain any semblance of the sort will continue. People have nearly always chosen the mustang over the competition despite it nearly always being slower. Let that sink in.

This is based on the old assumption that the majority of Mustang buyers are still baby boomers in their 60s, but they are not. People buy the Mustang because it’s a cheap and affordable sporty car with brand recognition, not because it looks like some cars that were made when their parents were younger. Ford could redesign the Mustang tomorrow and make it look like a Ferrari and people would still buy it. The GT350 for an example looked like a proper sports car with rounder and more organic lines compared to the old GT500 of the S197, yet Ford had no problems selling them to people. If it looks good and performs well, people will buy.

The only true to form “muscle car” left is the challenger, the mustang and Camaro are not. Mustangs and Camaros are far more closer to BMWs and Audi sporty coupes In terms of asthetics nowadays than they are to the challenger. It’s time to advance the design.

 

[Spirit Of Fire]

I think the 18 front already is going more into the modern sportscoupe and less into the muscular appearance, That's why it's looking worse than before imho. Flat hood, low frontend, very wide grille, sorry but that styling can others do way better than Ford - Saw the BMW Z4 and 8 Series concepts at IAA, absolutely stunning cars.

If Ford wants to build a car that has nothing in common with a Mustang, then maybe they should just give it a new name. But actually customers want the car they already have with a few tweaks instead of complete redesigns, which is why car makers usally don't risk a huge restyling anymore.

The 18 has more sharp angles and straight lines up front compared to the softer and rounded lines on the 15-17. The lines on the 18 do not flow well with the rest of the car. It tries to be overly agreesive and muscular but falls short.

 

[mikeyjobu]

People still buy the Mustang because it's a car of style and substance, and very aggressively priced -- that's true if you're age 18, or 80. Some people feel comfortable buying one because of it's heritage, but the style and substance are definitely there.

 

[millhouse]

This is based on the old assumption that the majority of Mustang buyers are still baby boomers in their 60s, but they are not. People buy the Mustang because it’s a cheap and affordable sporty car with brand recognition, not because it looks like some cars that were made when their parents were younger.

The majority of mustang buyers are most certainly not baby boomers…that assumption is totally false. Corvette buyers on the other hand…

I will agree, the mustang name sells itself…however, nostalgia is and always will be part of the mustang mystique. You can chose the deny it, but even the younger generations view the OG mustang as a timeless car.

Ford could redesign the Mustang tomorrow and make it look like a Ferrari and people would still buy it.

I disagree with you there. A good part of the mustangs form is due to its 2+2 seating as well as need for storage. Form follows function.

People seem to forget that Ford went down this road with the Probe in the 80’s and nearly killed the mustang off by doing so.

The GT350 for an example looked like a proper sports car with rounder and more organic lines compared to the old GT500 of the S197, yet Ford had no problems selling them to people. If it looks good and performs well, people will buy.

The GT350 sells because of one thing…the Voodoo engine.

The only true to form “muscle car” left is the challenger, the mustang and Camaro are not. Mustangs and Camaros are far more closer to BMWs and Audi sporty coupes In terms of asthetics nowadays than they are to the challenger. It’s time to advance the design.

You come across as wanting to make a change just to make a change…or that because somehow mustangs and camaros have a negative connotation to them…and that you would rather be driving an Audi or BMW at mustang pricing.

 

[Spirit Of Fire]

People still buy the Mustang because it's a car of style and substance, and very aggressively priced -- that's true if you're age 18, or 80. Some people feel comfortable buying one because of it's heritage, but the style and substance are definitely there.

Let’s not confuse brand recognition/awareness with “heritage.” Same reason people know about Walmart is the same reason I’d say the vast majority of people know about the mustang, it’s popular and it has been around for a while. I’m sure a lot of people buy mustangs for the same reason as well. It could look however it wants to look, as long as it’s name remains a mustang.

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