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  1. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Considering it's currently the same length as the camaro....I wouldn't expect the mustang to get any smaller until they completely ditch the 5.0 engine. They could possibly mess around with overhangs a bit to make it look smaller...but 2-3" is quite a bit of real-estate to lose while...
  2. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    That depends. Unless you're 4' tall, you are not going to be looking out at that HUD, but rather down. The sight-line is likely going to fall similarly to where a windshield HUD would. It most certainly needs to lose the edge line though. And while projecting on the windshield seems like a...
  3. millhouse

    S650 cancelled?

    I agree. I think you misunderstood the intentions of my post. :cheers:
  4. millhouse

    S650 cancelled?

    I'm curious, where is there any information confirming this? From everything I can tell, the S550 does quite fine when equipped with similar tires and suspension components (GT350) compared to the Alpha. What this shows is the chassis are more comparable...especially considering how...
  5. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    You are grossly underestimating those that choose a pony car because it has rear seats. Really, you could likely kiss at least half of the sales goodbye, maybe more. Anyone that daily drives their mustang and has kids (such as myself) would likely immediately lose interest in the vehicle...
  6. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    The 2+2 is extremely important. Without it, you alienate anyone who has kids and needs the car for occasional kid duty. You basically start competing with the corvette.
  7. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    There are no comparable vehicles have that have small block V8 with similar seating and cargo capacity. That was my point, unless Ford or Chevy eliminates the V8, these cars aren't getting any smaller. As for the BMW 2 series, you're talking about a car with a 2.0 4cyl car....of course it's...
  8. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Do you not realize that your ideal 7/8 mustang would be nearly 15 inches SHORTER and over 3 inches NARROWER than a foxbody mustang? Or that would also make it over 2 inches NARROWER than a MY18 mazda miata?
  9. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Exactly, it's not about picking sides...there simply is a reason today's cars are larger than they were 20 years ago. Fox-bodies would miserably fail today's crash protection standards. I would still love to own another notch, but they certainly are no where near as safe as todays mustangs...
  10. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    That was my point. Until ford loses a large V8, the chassis isn’t going to significantly decrease in length.
  11. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Ford won't be decreasing the interior room for the mustang....ever. If they continue to use a DOHC V8, the size won't be getting any smaller. The mustang selling is greatly dependent on being a 2+2 and being able to fit full sized American bodies. No where did I say the S650 wouldn't be lighter.
  12. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Show me a much smaller, mass produced 2+2 coupe that has an engine sized 5.0L or bigger produced today that has an interior capacity no smaller than the mustang. The only car that I can find that even comes close is the Lexus RCF. It's has the same wheelbase, but is smaller in every way...
  13. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Gotcha. In other words, jack up the base price another $10k.
  14. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Let's put something into perspective in regards to making the S550 narrower and shorter. Here is the old windsor that was packaged into the foxbody compared to a 4.6L modular. If you have seen a coyote shoehorned into a foxbody, you would understand the negative impact it would have...
  15. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Why would the mustang die? It's sales are linked far more to it's styling and nameplate than it is it's weight and performance. And again, they are already using quite a bit more aluminum than in the past...and are only ~75lbs heavier than the camaro. Again, packaging and federal crash...
  16. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    There is one reason currently why the mustang isn't lighter...and it's cost.
  17. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    The price was hypothetical. What good does dramatically decreasing the weight of the mustang if the costs associated with it would likely dramatically increase the price.
  18. millhouse

    2021 MUSTANG (S650) - 7th Generation Mustang Confirmed

    Really, weight loss is going to come down to cost. What good is a 3600lb mustang with a v8 if the base price is $50k? The camaro is also less tall, has a smaller trunk and less rear legroom. Keep in mind, too….the camaro even with all of it’s aluminum bits and pieces is less than...


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