Startup after sitting LONG / Oil pressure

[robvas]

Where does it state this in the manual, and how long is sitting for "a while"?

It's in some years manuals, and it's flor clearing a flooded engine, not building oil pressure

We had this discussion either here or on 6G and there's some goober that does it when he hasn't driven the car for a few days...

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[Wiley Marmot]

Ooookkkk. I'll just stick with the old tried and true start up.

I think the last time I had a flooded engine and had to keep the pedal to the floor to start it was about 1975 in my '69 Dodge Coronet 318/2bbl; whose carb I never cleaned.

Yes! I had a mullet and was banging on some KISS too!

 

[POHLHAMMER]

It's in some years manuals, and it's flor clearing a flooded engine, not building oil pressure

We had this discussion either here or on 6G and there's some goober that does it when he hasn't driven the car for a few days...

How often does your 2024 Flood ?

I find it interesting you only see it this way , and call people "goobers" who have read differently.

It absolutely distributes oil when turning over. Now is it necessary ? Does it make a difference on engine wear ?
I can definitely listen to that debate , and form a opinion. Calling names and disregarding other information is not extremely helpful.

You would fall into the "what huh" ?
category. You don't agree with doing it , and do not think it does anything. Noted, Thanks.

 

[robvas]

How often does your 2024 Flood ?

I find it interesting you only see it this way , and call people "goobers" who have read differently.

It absolutely distributes oil when turning over. Now is it necessary ? Does it make a difference on engine wear ? Ki
I can definitely listen to that debate , and form a opinion. Calling names and disregarding other information is not extremely helpful.

You would fall into the "what huh" ?
category. You don't agree with doing it , and do not think it does anything. Noted, Thanks.

So you're ignoring what ford tech instructs you to do? Why? Sounds like you're the one disregarding information.

it's not a small block ford with the old, different style oil pump.

 

[POHLHAMMER]

So you're ignoring what ford tech instructs you to do? Why? Sounds like you're the one disregarding information.

it's not a small block ford with the old, different style oil pump.

What you shared said 5.2liter , Wouldn't that be a Vodoo or predator engine ? They require higher oil pressure , so it may not apply the same to those engines. Also in high performance applications, I could see them recommending the oil pump over the "flood procedure"

Are you saying a Gerotor pump will not push any oil during turn over ? I read the opposite. Granted it isn't building much if any pressure, it still will push oil. No ?

I am definitely not a engine guy so I could be very wrong. I would like to hear why you say it won't pump ANY oil ?

 

[robvas]

What you shared said 5.2liter , Wouldn't that be a Vodoo or predator engine ?

It's the same oil pump design.

go to 12:30 of this video

 

[Zig]

I suspect you’d verify a good battery prior to repeated attempts. Been sitting that long el battery gonna need awakening.

 

[POHLHAMMER]

Yes , I 100% agree. You HAVE to prime a rebuild or freshly assembled engine with a oil primer pump. It states that clearly in a lot of what I am reading. Do Not use the "flood procedure" I never said to do this after you reassemble your engine. lol.
I honestly could change my opinion, but you have not shared anything that does yet.

Do you think the oil pump does or does not push any oil during cranking ?

It's the same oil pump design.

go to 12:30 of this video

 

[robvas]

He just a said it doesn't spin fast enough to get the oil through the engine.

Do whatever you want - it's your engine

 

[POHLHAMMER]

I suspect you’d verify a good battery prior to repeated attempts. Been sitting that long el battery gonna need awakening.

I was a bit nervous, as our battery does drain low. I allowed it to spin over for about 5-7 seconds , and as soon as I let off the gas it fired right up.

 

[POHLHAMMER]

He just a said it doesn't spin fast enough to get the oil through the engine.

Do whatever you want - it's your engine

It states that a Gerotor pump doesn't self prime very well ,if at all from what I read. So yes , you would need to push oil through the system after a rebuild or it will simply air lock and not pull oil. Once the system is primed , and granted it doesn't drain out , it will continue to push oil. If it didn't, how would it if you just fire it up immediately?

So I will assume you do not think any oil gets pushed during cranking.. ?

 

[robvas]

If it got to the top of the engine, they wouldn't say to use another method

pop a valve cover off and try

 

[Upacurb]

It's a freaking Coyote...they made millions of them.....many have had 100s of 1000s of miles put on them.........they will be fine if you dont start them for a few weeks.......its not some ultra exotic motor.......guys are running a million pounds of boost on them and not blowing them up......you can let it sit for a few weeks and start your car.......

 

[LouG]

You cannot build pressure by turning the engine over with the starter on a modular engine. It's a Gerotor oil pump. Doesn't turn fast enough, ford even says this in the engine docs. It's not like the old style engines and oil pumps. You can pre-lube it with a pump

Is that on a newly rebuilt engine, or all?

 

[LouG]

.....its not some ultra exotic motor.....

It's reasonably exotic. DOHC, variable valve operation, dual injectors, high rev limit blah, blah, blah.
It makes my bikes engines look stone age

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