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Its the first american car to run a sub 7mins lap and has potential to do even better.

Who cares the Porsche costs less. Are you also attempting a sub7 min lap and working on a budget? Only a handful of people on earth has managed it.

If I had the money(and access) I would probably love to own both of them. Both beautiful machines but that V8 roar at 300kph on the final staight has no equal. Gave me adrenaline just watching it. Congrats Ford.
 

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For those interested here's the onboard view of the lap.

I wonder why on some of the upshifts it's cracking and snappy like a dual clutch and on other upshifts it's mild and slow like a slush box. Same RPM, throttle input, gear, ext. from the gauges but I wonder what the difference is? Maybe he's manual shifting some gears and it's shifting some auto?
 

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That $12,999 base coupe market adjust to….

TWO HUNDRED NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS in 2024…

yep… 290K…

By all comparisons a fully loaded Dark horse would cost HALF of the LX, and is superior in every way.
no…

S650 Mustang Official: Mustang GTD laps Nurburgring in 6:57.685 IMG_0806
 

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Its the first american car to run a sub 7mins lap and has potential to do even better.

… but that V8 roar at 300kph on the final staight has no equal. Gave me adrenaline just watching it. Congrats Ford.
Mustang Boss 302 kph: a high-performance V-8 powered Mustang produced by Ford 😁
 


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That $12,999 base coupe market adjust to….

TWO HUNDRED NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS in 2024…

yep… 290K…

By all comparisons a fully loaded Dark horse would cost HALF of the LX, and is superior in every way.
if you are talking about inflation, that number is way off. $12999 from 1988 is about $34685 today, which can get you a 100A EcoBoost. its still superior to the 1988 LX in basically every way, anyways. 1.8s faster 0-60, +90hp, -28ft stop distance from 70mph, +6 mpg average, +10mph top speed, 1.6s and 8mph faster quarter mile, and more. only way it really falls short is it has an I4 instead of a V8
 

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We could argue if the time is fast or not but consider the fact that S550 was the best selling sports car in Germany for the whole existence of the model 7 years in a row. No BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo etc can say that.

Now the Mustang is the only American car to be faster around the Nurburgring than a 991 GT2 RS (car that cost more) and on par with a lot of Hypercars ?

And we are debating why it's not faster than the GT3 RS that have adjustable dumpers from the steering wheel ? Are you guys for real 7 years ago no one was even discussing if a Mustang can beat a 300 000$ Porsche they were not even in the same bracket. I have to also remind you that a Mustang GT3 finished 3rd in class in Le Mans in it's first year of racing and a GT4 Mustang won the IMSA GS championship in not a factory team ether.


I know the GTD is probably a Pig as all Mustangs are but the engineering that go into it is amazing. Can we nit pick on the time and some issues like brakes performance sure. Will the new C8 ZR1 be faster probably but is it an achievement ?

Considering the Mach 1 did the same lap in 7:58. GTD is a whole minute faster than that. I think this only show what you can do with a Mustang not only if factory build but even if build at home.

The GT500 modded by Steve Luca (SerpentStang) set lap time record faster than McLaren Senna at the very home track of Chevrolet (NCM Motorsports Park).

If that's not the dream of all Mustang owners across the world I don't know what is. 2024 will go in the history books as the year of Ford and Mustang and to top it all out we got a 6:57 at the Nurburgring.
 

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Will the new C8 ZR1 be faster probably but is it an achievement ?
Personally, I would find the ZR1 beating the GTD to be a bigger achievement. The ZR1 will be a standard production car that anyone with the funds for can buy, and it shares a hell of a lot more with the base Stingray than the GTD does with any other Mustang. Not to mention that it'll be half the price and you don't have to submit an application and hope you can beat some moronic YouTuber to buy one.

Ford would still have done it first though, and nobody will be able to take that away from them.
 

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We could argue if the time is fast or not but consider the fact that S550 was the best selling sports car in Germany for the whole existence of the model 7 years in a row. No BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo etc can say that.

Now the Mustang is the only American car to be faster around the Nurburgring than a 991 GT2 RS (car that cost more) and on par with a lot of Hypercars ?

And we are debating why it's not faster than the GT3 RS that have adjustable dumpers from the steering wheel ? Are you guys for real 7 years ago no one was even discussing if a Mustang can beat a 300 000$ Porsche they were not even in the same bracket. I have to also remind you that a Mustang GT3 finished 3rd in class in Le Mans in it's first year of racing and a GT4 Mustang won the IMSA GS championship in not a factory team ether.


I know the GTD is probably a Pig as all Mustangs are but the engineering that go into it is amazing. Can we nit pick on the time and some issues like brakes performance sure. Will the new C8 ZR1 be faster probably but is it an achievement ?

Considering the Mach 1 did the same lap in 7:58. GTD is a whole minute faster than that. I think this only show what you can do with a Mustang not only if factory build but even if build at home.

The GT500 modded by Steve Luca (SerpentStang) set lap time record faster than McLaren Senna at the very home track of Chevrolet (NCM Motorsports Park).

If that's not the dream of all Mustang owners across the world I don't know what is. 2024 will go in the history books as the year of Ford and Mustang and to top it all out we got a 6:57 at the Nurburgring.
exactly all of this. up until the GTD came out, people were probably expecting a new gen of the Ford GT to be going at the Nurburgring. except that Ford decided to use a (admittedly heavily modified) Mustang. bespoke rear suspension, carbon ceramic brakes, magnesium wheels, and all the other goodies made just for it were definitely not any degree of easy to design or make. Ford has put the Mustang name among the best of the best production vehicles on the track, and that was in bad conditions

(also just want to say that you can adjust damper settings on the steering wheel in the GTD too)
 

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Personally, I would find the ZR1 beating the GTD to be a bigger achievement. The ZR1 will be a standard production car that anyone with the funds for can buy, and it shares a hell of a lot more with the base Stingray than the GTD does with any other Mustang. Not to mention that it'll be half the price and you don't have to submit an application and hope you can beat some moronic YouTuber to buy one.

Ford would still have done it first though, and nobody will be able to take that away from them.
The only part the ZR1 shares with the Stingray that the GTD doesn't also share with the Mustang is the transmission and maybe the suspension (chevy hasn't really talked about that one)
 

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The only part the ZR1 shares with the Stingray that the GTD doesn't also share with the Mustang is the transmission and maybe the suspension (chevy hasn't really talked about that one)
I should've said "other Corvettes" because you can clearly see that the ZR1 shares more with the rest of the Corvette lineup than the GTD does with the Mustang lineup. The ZR1 shares the unibody, complete interior, most of the body panels, brakes, transmission, and most of the engine parts with the Z06 (and much of that is shared with the base Stingray). The GTD shares the unibody, some of the interior, and some engine parts (with the GT). That's it. The few body panels that look the same aren't the same since they're carbon fiber. The wheels and tires, brakes, seats, some interior trim, suspension, and transmission are all different. The engine is dry sump. Basically everything that determines how a car drives is different. Not to mention that all Corvettes go down the same assembly line and the GTD is built by Multimatic.
 

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I should've said "other Corvettes" because you can clearly see that the ZR1 shares more with the rest of the Corvette lineup than the GTD does with the Mustang lineup. The ZR1 shares the unibody, complete interior, most of the body panels, brakes, transmission, and most of the engine parts with the Z06 (and much of that is shared with the base Stingray). The GTD shares the unibody, some of the interior, and some engine parts (with the GT). That's it. The few body panels that look the same aren't the same since they're carbon fiber. The wheels and tires, brakes, seats, some interior trim, suspension, and transmission are all different. The engine is dry sump. Basically everything that determines how a car drives is different. Not to mention that all Corvettes go down the same assembly line and the GTD is built by Multimatic.
The Zr1 has its own body panels vs the Stingray and Z06. The GTD uses the 5.2 predator which is a modified Cotoye that was also used In the GT500. Wheels and tires are also different between the Zr1 and other vetted. the GTD interior is literally the same as the GT with the only differences being the gear dial and no rear seats.

Good eye on the brakes, I keep forgetting about those.

I'm not saying the GTD is a big standard mustang, or even has a reasonable price, but you're crazy If you think the ZR1 isn't just as modified as the mustang is.
 

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You know now that's almost 40k? For 200 horsepower.

Now you can get a GT almost 500hp in the low 40Ks lol
Fucking exactly!! New cars are a dream of performance, safety, longevity, liveability. They're actually a great value for the money. Compared to the 80s where almost every car in the road looked like shit, including the fox body, and struggled to make any sort of power. That's right, I don't like how the foxbody looks. It's not that it's a terrible looking car, just that it's a terrible looking mustang. It's a body hatchback that shared almost none of the classic mustang styling cues.
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