X-Plan on New Mustang

[B.eating.U]

If the dealer makes the same profit weather you use X-plan or not, why do some dealers deny a request to use X-plan?

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[MELLOWYELLOW06]

So which plan cab you use with which?

getting a little confused here now!

 

[HalfMoon]

If the dealer makes the same profit weather you use X-plan or not, why do some dealers deny a request to use X-plan?

Around here, the only dealers I found that are not taking X-Plan are the ones that are going to try to put added dealer markup on the cars.

 

[souprmage]

Around here, the only dealers I found that are not taking X-Plan are the ones that are going to try to put added dealer markup on the cars.

Exactly, they're 'losing' money because they aren't able to gouge the avg buyer with some of their first cars.

Once there are cars on people's lots, they wouldn't be able to do that, but there aren't so they see an opportunity to gouge.

 

[Kolyan24k]

Can anyone confirm that Experimental Aircraft Association rebate is not showing up anymore ?

 

[HalfMoon]

Can anyone confirm that Experimental Aircraft Association rebate is not showing up anymore ?

It's still there right now.

 

[Kolyan24k]

It's still there right now.

Thanks, just another user said its not..... I registered and confirmed that its still there

 

[tsunami]

Interesting situation at EAA for the $750 rebate...

When I joined the EAA, I generated a username and password.
I, then, was offered the $750 rebate (good til Jan 3, 2015)...I printed out a copy of the PIN number and a certificate. The fine print states that I have to present the EAA rebate certificate/PIN number at the time of my ordering along with proof of my EAA membership (not just at delivery...which is required for the X-Plan). I later also received an email copy.

The interesting thing is...when I went back to the EAA a couple of days later...I browsed through the website. No longer was the $750 rebate shown anywhere on the site. Instead, an X-Plan rebate offer was shown stating that EAA was a partner with Ford in the X-Plan.

But several other M6G members have stated subsequently that the $750 rebate offer was shown when they registered.

So I have to assume that the $750 rebate is only offered when you sign up. If you don't accept the offer immediately, the offer disappears and the X-Plan offer is generated instead. I may be wrong...but after visiting the EAA site several more times I have not been able to view the rebate. The site automatically acknowledges my member profile, name, etc.

The rebate certificate implies that it is good in addition with an X-Plan.

So if you wish to use the rebate before 3 Jan 2015 to purchase a vehicle that is at your dealership by that date (very important)...it seems that you have to accept the rebate offer at the time of your membership signup.

So with the ordering/shipping 'delays', you should quickly order so that your car will be at the dealership on or before 3 Jan 2015, if you want to use the EAA rebate.

If I am wrong, please correct this thread.

 

[HalfMoon]

Interesting situation at EAA for the $750 rebate...

When I joined the EAA, I generated a username and password.
I, then, was offered the $750 rebate (good til Jan 3, 2015)...I printed out a copy of the PIN number and a certificate. The fine print states that I have to present the EAA rebate certificate/PIN number at the time of my ordering along with proof of my EAA membership (not just at delivery...which is required for the X-Plan). I later also received an email copy.

The interesting thing is...when I went back to the EAA a couple of days later...I browsed through the website. No longer was the $750 rebate shown anywhere on the site. Instead, an X-Plan rebate offer was shown stating that EAA was a partner with Ford in the X-Plan.

But several other M6G members have stated subsequently that the $750 rebate offer was shown when they registered.

So I have to assume that the $750 rebate is only offered when you sign up. If you don't accept the offer immediately, the offer disappears and the X-Plan offer is generated instead. I may be wrong...but after visiting the EAA site several more times I have not been able to view the rebate. The site automatically acknowledges my member profile, name, etc.

The rebate certificate implies that it is good in addition with an X-Plan.

So if you wish to use the rebate before 3 Jan 2015 to purchase a vehicle that is at your dealership by that date (very important)...it seems that you have to accept the rebate offer at the time of your membership signup.

So with the ordering/shipping 'delays', you should quickly order so that your car will be at the dealership on or before 3 Jan 2015, if you want to use the EAA rebate.

If I am wrong, please correct this thread.

You can get the coupon after you sign up. You just have to click through to the fordpartner site and when you login with the EAA partner code the banner is right there in the middle of the bottom of the screen.

I got my certificate last week and verified this twice today for people here. It's still there as of 15 seconds ago:

 

[Old 5 Oh]

You can get the coupon after you sign up. You just have to click through to the fordpartner site and when you login with the EAA partner code the banner is right there in the middle of the bottom of the screen.

I have my certificate as well, but I cannot get Ford to verify that it's a legitimate offer. Their response: Send us your bill of sale after you buy the car and we'll let you know. Not very reassuring.

 

[HalfMoon]

I have my certificate as well, but I cannot get Ford to verify that it's a legitimate offer. Their response: Send us your bill of sale after you buy the car and we'll let you know. Not very reassuring.

I wouldn't bother with Ford directly.

It's in the partner site and the language is clear. I trust that the dealer will be able to apply it at the time of delivery/sale.

What would suck is if everyone calling Ford and the MCA to try to match this deal gets the offer pulled prematurely for people w/o a certificate and expiration date already. :doh:

 

[Ruby305GT]

Quick question

Hey Guys! New to the forum here and looking for some help. I am looking to order a GT early January next year. I started talking to dealerships recently just to square away the deals etc. I am not happy with the ones I have contacted thus far, seems like they have no experience with X-Plan, at least the reps I am dealing with.
Does anyone down in South Florida have a recommendation for a good rep at a local dealership . Maybe someone they've already dealt with and has worked the numbers correctly? I live in Broward County, close to Miami Dade and Palm Beach county, meaning I dont mind driving in the tri-county area of Florida in order to deal with someone worth it. Can anyone help? :help:

 

[GiddyUp15]

Hey Guys! New to the forum here and looking for some help. I am looking to order a GT early January next year. I started talking to dealerships recently just to square away the deals etc. I am not happy with the ones I have contacted thus far, seems like they have no experience with X-Plan, at least the reps I am dealing with.
Does anyone down in South Florida have a recommendation for a good rep at a local dealership . Maybe someone they've already dealt with and has worked the numbers correctly? I live in Broward County, close to Miami Dade and Palm Beach county, meaning I dont mind driving in the tri-county area of Florida in order to deal with someone worth it. Can anyone help? :help:

I ended up using Trucar website through USAA. Prices vary by location but I actually could have got a lower price than X-plan if I bought in Indy but chose to stick to Denver area (I travel to Indy often) and also by using USAA I got an interest rate discount :-)

 

[Ruby305GT]

I actually tried TrueCar to see how it would compare to X-Plan, it seemed pretty close, even thought I was still saving about 700-1k more with X-Plan due to the Doc fees being capped at $100. I just need to find a dealership in my region with someone that has done X-Plan already and I dont have to haggle and negotiate because they dont know how to close X-Plan deals. This is what I was sent from Autonation Ford in Miami when I inquired about X-Plan:


Vehicle Price
$38,014.16
Destination
$0.00
Discount
$0.00
Selling Price
$38,014.16
Trade Value
$0.00
Difference
$38,014.16
Pay-off
$0.00
Sales Tax
$2,329.16
Dade county tax on 1st 5k
$50.00
Tag/Registration Fees (Estimate)
$300.00
Tire & Battery/ MVWEA
$8.50
Dealer Fee/ Documentation Fee
$699.95
Balance Due
$41,401.77

This to me is wrong. Based on calculations I used from the Google sheet and resources here, this is what I arrived at:

X-PLAN is : Invoice minus (0.4% of Invoice) + $275 dealer fee

invoice $33,306 - $133.22 + $275 admin fee = $33,447.78

+ GT PP 67G - $2,227
+ Premium Trim Package 68B - $353
+ Ruby Red - $353

+ Advertising assessment 1.63% - $669
+ Fuel - $57.60
+ Destination Fee - $825

$37,932.38

+ Tax 6%, since I will be registering in Broward = $40,208.32
+ tag transfer title fee = $77.25

Grand total = $40,285.57 +/- a few cents

So I am not sure how they are working the numbers here.....:frusty:

 

[GiddyUp15]

I actually tried TrueCar to see how it would compare to X-Plan, it seemed pretty close, even thought I was still saving about 700-1k more with X-Plan due to the Doc fees being capped at $100. I just need to find a dealership in my region with someone that has done X-Plan already and I dont have to haggle and negotiate because they dont know how to close X-Plan deals. This is what I was sent from Autonation Ford in Miami when I inquired about X-Plan:


Vehicle Price
$38,014.16
Destination
$0.00
Discount
$0.00
Selling Price
$38,014.16
Trade Value
$0.00
Difference
$38,014.16
Pay-off
$0.00
Sales Tax
$2,329.16
Dade county tax on 1st 5k
$50.00
Tag/Registration Fees (Estimate)
$300.00
Tire & Battery/ MVWEA
$8.50
Dealer Fee/ Documentation Fee
$699.95
Balance Due
$41,401.77

This to me is wrong. Based on calculations I used from the Google sheet and resources here, this is what I arrived at:

X-PLAN is : Invoice minus (0.4% of Invoice) + $275 dealer fee

invoice $33,306 - $133.22 + $275 admin fee = $33,447.78

+ GT PP 67G - $2,227
+ Premium Trim Package 68B - $353
+ Ruby Red - $353

+ Advertising assessment 1.63% - $669
+ Fuel - $57.60
+ Destination Fee - $825

$37,932.38

+ Tax 6%, since I will be registering in Broward = $40,208.32
+ tag transfer title fee = $77.25

Grand total = $40,285.57 +/- a few cents

So I am not sure how they are working the numbers here.....:frusty:

Yeah it doesn't add up right. Looks like the Dealer Fee/ Documentation Fee $699.95 is the largest culprit. If they're accepting X-plan, they're required to show you the invoice/build sheet with the X-plan price on it. They can only charge $100 in doc fees from what I understand. Otherwise they aren't doing X-plan and would get in trouble with Ford if they're saying they're accepting it and not giving you the correct price.

EDIT: I don't think you quite did your calculations right, but I checked on the X-plan B&P and your car should have an X-plan price of $37,833. Add to that the $100 max doc charge and they should only be charging you (before tax, title, other local stuff) $37,933. Looks like you calculated the X-plan price BEFORE you added the options, but you need to do that calculation AFTER you add all the options, including adding ADV, Fuel, and Destination. When I put it in my spreadsheet I got X-plan price of $37,836:

Starting Invoice GT Premium: $33,306
+ GT PP 67G - $2,227
+ Premium Trim Package 68B - $353
+ Ruby Red - $353

+ Advertising assessment 1.63% - $590.70
+ Fuel - $57.60
+ Destination Fee - $825

invoice $37,712.30 - $150.85 + $275 admin fee = $37,836.45 X-plan price (before doc fee, taxes, local tags/title)

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