Rant after driving a M2 and M3

[Mspider]

I think a Dark Horse is hard to beat for a 3 season car. I would even take one over a corvette because I am just not a fan of the C8. But for me I own one car and drive them all year long in the Midwest. A DH just won`t cut it.

That`s the difference between a BMW and a Mustang. They are a lot easier for everyday and winter driving. They still have a lot of performance, cool design and can come in AWD (not M2). I think a AWD M3 is one of the best daily drivers you can buy. But the cost is substantial.

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[Polo08816]

I think a Dark Horse is hard to beat for a 3 season car. I would even take one over a corvette because I am just not a fan of the C8. But for me I own one car and drive them all year long in the Midwest. A DH just won`t cut it.

That`s the difference between a BMW and a Mustang. They are a lot easier for everyday and winter driving. They still have a lot of performance, cool design and can come in AWD (not M2). I think a AWD M3 is one of the best daily drivers you can buy. But the cost is substantial.

To be honest, I'd prefer an SUV for every day and winter driving. I'd pick the 2025 Explorer ST for an every day driver not because it's the fastest or best handling SUV. I'd pick it because it's common - easy and inexpensive to repair and maintain relative to its competitors. It gets decent gas mileage for an SUV of that size with a full time AWD but RWD biased drivetrain.

I think this is precisely why BMW 3 Series sales have been on a downward trend. If you're going to pay $50-60k for a practical vehicle, you might as well get an SUV over a sedan.

 

[Mspider]

To be honest, I'd prefer an SUV for every day and winter driving. I'd pick the 2025 Explorer ST for an every day driver not because it's the fastest or best handling SUV. I'd pick it because it's common - easy and inexpensive to repair and maintain relative to its competitors. It gets decent gas mileage for an SUV of that size with a full time AWD but RWD biased drivetrain.

I think this is precisely why BMW 3 Series sales have been on a downward trend. If you're going to pay $50-60k for a practical vehicle, you might as well get an SUV over a sedan.

The perfect setup would be to have some type of SUV and a performance car. But If I had to pick only one car I am still going with a AWD performance car ideally over a SUV. Specially if you don`t have a family to drive around.

 

[roadpilot]

F150 for the winter months and for utility, and S650 for the good weather. Can't be beat.

 

[24grabbergt]

F150 for the winter months and for utility, and S650 for the good weather. Can't be beat.

I second this!

 

[Magic88]

F150 for the winter months and for utility, and S650 for the good weather. Can't be beat.

Question for you,

I've got a 150 coming in, I'm leveling it and putting 35's on it. Do you know if I can change the circumference calculations in Forscan to fix speedometer?

 

[roadpilot]

Question for you,

I've got a 150 coming in, I'm leveling it and putting 35's on it. Do you know if I can change the circumference calculations in Forscan to fix speedometer?

Although I have not made those adjustments myself, I know there are some for tire size.

Livnitup's FORScan - 2021-24 F150 - Google Sheets

 

[Magic88]

Although I have not made those adjustments myself, I know there are some for tire size.

Livnitup's FORScan - 2021-24 F150 - Google Sheets

Yep, I did it on my 21. I was curious because of the statement that the 24's are so locked down.

Thank you for the link!

 

[roadpilot]

Yep, I did it on my 21. I was curious because of the statement that the 24's are so locked down.

Thank you for the link!

Link to the FORScan thread for the 14th Gen F150 on those forums:

FORScan - 14th Gen F150s - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

 

[Magic88]

Link to the FORScan thread for the 14th Gen F150 on those forums:

FORScan - 14th Gen F150s - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

You're a scholar and a gentleman. I don't care what anyone says of you, haha

Thank you

 

[roadpilot]

You're a scholar and a gentleman. I don't care what anyone says of you, haha

Oh, some say a lot, but the thing is, IDGAF!

Here's Livinitup's original thread on the other F150 forums:

2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet ? | F150gen14 -- 2021+ Ford F-150, Tremor, Raptor Forum (14th Gen) | News, Owners, Community, Discussions

There are also some very long threads on both of those forms dating back several YEARS, documenting all we went through with OTA issues and such. Total sh*tshow.

 

[Magic88]

Oh, some say a lot, but the thing is, IDGAF!

Here's Livinitup's original thread on the other F150 forums:

2021+ F-150 FORScan List / Database / Spreadsheet ? | F150gen14 -- 2021+ Ford F-150, Tremor, Raptor Forum (14th Gen) | News, Owners, Community, Discussions

There are also some very long threads on both of those forms dating back several YEARS, documenting all we went through with OTA issues and such. Total sh*tshow.

Beautiful, thank you!

 

[Polo08816]

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2024/07/2025-corvette-pricing-uncovered/

Critically, starting prices for the C8 Stingray are unchanged for the 2025 model year, while prices for the C8 E-Ray and C8 Z06 are $2,000 more expensive than they were previously. The entry-level 2025 Corvette is once again the Stingray 1LT Coupe, which is priced at $69,995, while the E-Ray starts at $108,595 for the 1LZ Coupe. Stepping up to the Z06 costs $113,795 for the 1LZ Coupe.

Looks like that is not going to help the Mustang DH Premium argument/sales when the C8 Stingray model MSRPs are not going increase...

 

[Dave2013M3]

I will just leave this right here...this was a manual M2 not an automatic. It ran the same time as the SS with the 10spd, but it was an automatic. A 12.2 @119mph with a manual is a time the Mustang would dream to have.

 

[Zig]

I will just leave this right here...this was a manual M2 not an automatic. It ran the same time as the SS with the 10spd, but it was an automatic. A 12.2 @119mph with a manual is a time the Mustang would dream to have.

Motortrend:
2024 Ford Mustang GT Convertible w/ Performance package
TRANSMISSION: 10-speed automatic
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST): 4,096 lb (54/46%)
QUARTER MILE: 12.2 sec @ 116.8 mph

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