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Are you aware of any aftermarket camber plates that use a more street oriented polyurethane bushing instead of a spherical bearing? It would be similar to the "street" versions of the Millway camber plates in the BMW world: https://www.millway.se/collections/camber-plates

Just wait until the DH Boss SC hits showrooms and people unload their DHs.

Sometimes over 10% is possible. I imagine these discounts will get better when the Dark Horse Boss hits showrooms.

Curious how a square setup of 305/35/19 would fit.

I wish the State Police had a portal where you could submit dash cam footage of terrible drivers and they would make a determination of whether to issue that person a fine only (no points) ticket to the registered owner of the vehicle. Behavior modification through financial penalties can be...

This may one of the very few things the WH got right this go around.

If it were a track car, I wouldn’t run such a significant aftermarket power adder. 20-25 min track sessions are very different than a 10-20 second pull.

I know this is not the same, but on my 2014 335i RWD, I use different size all season tires in the winter which are about 0.3-0.5" different in diameter. It hasn't tripped the traction control yet. Factory tire configurations have the same diameter.

Ah okay, I thought we were talking about swapping in new wheels too. This why I'm back and forth on the HP. I think those that actually track a lot will eventually transition to a square setup in order to be able to rotate. I don't think the difference would be sufficient to upset the...

Why not just go with a 305/35/19 square setup?

You might need to experiment with slightly different sizes (305/30/19), but I would consider the following for economical (endurance?) choices: Hankook Ventus R-24 Goodyear Eagle F1 Supercar 3

The outer edge of the PS4S doesn't hold up to track days, even with camber plates.

Same. Curious about the Dark Horse.

+1. As of right now, I would give the edge to the G87 M2. If Ford incentivized the DH so its market selling price was below $60k, I would give the edge to the DH.

My only gripe with the DH is price. It should be undercutting BMW on price.

Yup, curious as well.

Discounts will only get better as we move into 2026 and 2027. I mean they have to... the Dark Horse can be more expensive than the G87 M2 LCI.

I think right now, I would go the route of a 2025+ G87 M2 because you can get one for 5% off MSRP. But I can be swayed. If Granger Ford started doing 4% under invoice on the Mustang DH, I would go that route.

For track purposes, you have to assume everything including the powertrain is a consumable. I think the G87 M2 is a faster car with the same tires, but the running costs are definitely something you have to factor in when tracking. The catastrophic repair costs for the Mustang will be...

Just have to wait another year or two and see if production ramps up.