Just did oil change was wondering if any amount of glitter is good in oil change?

[Area51]

I bought a used 2024 with 40k on it about 6 months ago.When I got it I checked everything I could think of and of course oil looked brand new.So I have put about 3k on it and did my own oil change and after looking in the drain pans I had 2 of them looks like I was panning for gold.There were also some small pieces that were magnetic.The oil was still pretty clear but when I shine a light in there looks like possibly bearing material?Car runs perfect dosent make any noise what so ever.Im assuming this isn’t normal for the coyote?Car is all stock except for cat back exhaust and oil catch can that was on it when I bought it.Thinking of sending oil in to get checked any thoughts would be appreciated on next step I should take after oil sample if it comes back bad.

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[Neggytive]

Send a sample to Blackstone for analysis

 

[D/\rK•650]

There was another thread about this not to long ago. I dont think we came to any real conclusions, wonder what would Ford do if there was a lot of wear metals in the oil? Would they warranty it or do anything? Good question .

 

[Area51]

I was just reading a thread on a gt350 that had a lot more glitter then mine.He dropped the oil pan and rod caps and everything and turns out it was an oil additive that was added that had a lot of zinc in it.Wondering if that is the case with mine.Ill have to send a sample to blackstone and find out.

 

[dusman59]

Fotd would do nothing . Metal in the oil is normal on a new break in engine. Maybe check after 10k miles. There are too many other important things in life to worry about. I have never sent an oil sample in in the last 50 plus years and never had an engine problem. Breaking in an egine should never be like Grandma would.

 

[Neggytive]

Fotd would do nothing . Metal in the oil is normal on a new break in engine. Maybe check after 10k miles. There are too many other important things in life to worry about. I have never sent an oil sample in in the last 50 plus years and never had an engine problem. Breaking in an egine should never be like Grandma would.

Read the first post

He got the car with 40K on it and has put 3 more on it.

But I agree that Ford would do nothing for him if the engine was having issues.

Break in for engines in years gone by was more to get the rings to seat, but that has not been a concern in many many years as they use different materials and coatings now.

For some reason Corvettes had/have a 500 mile don't beat the crap out of it nanny limiter built into the ECM, but once it hits 500 miles drive it like you stole it

 

[robvas]

Not a good sign. Check the filter in 1k miles

 

[MAT1955]

From the moment I pick-up the new vehicles I buy (now 4 Mustangs) I keep the revs low (not lugging - just not bouncing off the rev limiter) and vary the revs and mph for the first 500 miles. I'm still very respectful for the next 500 miles then I change the oil (FULL synthetic) and filter. After that I don't mind getting on it once in a while. I have never had a vehicle burn oil or ever had an engine problem related to wear. IMO how an engine is treated for at least the first 500 kiles is critical...... and there should not be a lot of visible "metallics" in your oil unless something has been addeed or is wrong.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Send it to Blackstone for an oil analysis. Its really easy.

 

[Area51]

Thanks everyone for the replies.I have blackstone sending me a kit.Since I have already changed the oil how many miles should I put on the new oil before I send it in?Blacktone says to take the sample roughly about half way thru the drain and not to start the car before I take the sample.Also I cut open the oil filter and do not see anything in it at all.

 

[Billycar11]

could also be something like ceratec in it.

 

[Neggytive]

Nothing in the filter is a good sign

Any chance your drain pans were contaminated, either by something in them before you started or the oil washed dirt from the underside of the car into the pans?

I noticed the tech who did my last oil change covered a bunch of the underside with aluminum foil to catch and direct the draining oil.

 

[Skye]

Thanks everyone for the replies.I have blackstone sending me a kit.Since I have already changed the oil how many miles should I put on the new oil before I send it in?Blacktone says to take the sample roughly about half way thru the drain and not to start the car before I take the sample.Also I cut open the oil filter and do not see anything in it at all.

I actually just completed a sample this month. Give it one week for the sample to reach Blackstone. Give them one week to run the sample and e-mail you the results.

Once you have the kit and take a sample, you can go to their site and pre-pay for an analysis, then list the receipt # on your sample before mailing.

The mailers Blackstone uses are pre-paid. Go to the Post Office, place in the bin and walk away. You'll have a tracking number on the envelop.

There's new oil, used oil and waste oil. Shipping new oil and used oil through the mail is done all the time. Sending waste oil is not. If anyone asks, you're mailing used oil to a company that does oil analysis. Waste oil is often defined as oil and something which could cause a reaction. Something uncontrolled or toxic if the package is opened.

I'm attaching some photos of my drain plug. The first photo with the most material would have been during the second oil change on the engine, when I'd used the plug once. The latest photo shows the same plug. The material is less course and fewer pieces than the first.

IDK how long I'm going to be seeing material on the plug. It's an engine. I expect the amount of material seen to become less and less, over time. I also expect to see less course material over time.

The initial oil change on the new engine, I saw some pretty big bits in the pan. Like the plug, they were all silver/black in color. Those materials were expected.

Maybe look inside the oil fill port? See if there's any glitter there?

Blackstone can help identify if there is a problem. While it will identify wear metals and how they compare to other engines which have been sampled, they won't necessarily identify a specific part at fault. But yes, do the sample.

Odds are you're using a different oil than the other owner did. The oil properties in the Blackstone report, those will take two to three oil changes to stabilize. We never drain all the oil from an engine, so it can take a bit of time. Mine stabilized after sending 20 quarts of oil through the engine over two oil changes.

Saying that, you might not get a definite answer with one sample. You might need two or three for a trend.

When doing an oil change and taking a sample, I take the car out for a run first. I bring the vehicle up to its normal operating temps. Back at home or the shop, raise the hood, get setup. The engine will still be pretty hot by the time you reach for the plug.

Taking in the middle of the drain is preferred, but not critical. Aim for it. Don't be bothered if you miss a bit to early or too late.

As to how long, IDK. 500 mi / 800 km? That seems like a nice amount. It depends on the rate of wear going on inside the engine. While 500 mi for the initial sample could be OK, I'd stretch things out to a more expected interval over time.

I'm also enclosing a link where I detail analysis. It will help explain the wear metals and oil profiles.

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/first-oil-change-and-analysis.132878/page-2#post-4125644

could also be something like ceratec in it.

I don't think so. Cera Tec will turn the oil a milkshake color, which could be mistaken for an oil/water issue. I've not seen physical glitter or material associated with it. I do not use Cera Tec.

Edit,

The photos of the drain pan, FWIW, are from the first oil change with a new Coyote.

With all that, drive as you normally would. Monitor temperatures, fluid levels and behaviors.

 

[DarkHorsePremium]

I just changed the oil in my wife's brand new RX500h, 1K miles. Oil looked fine. There was a super fine glittery silt on the very top of the oil. There was probably three or four (extremely small) chunky pieces too. Not worried about it at all. Completely normal for a new vehicle.

Seeing a lot of shavings in an engine with 40K is a little bit different. Good that the inside of your filter looks clean. The Blackstone analysis will give you a baseline. You can do another one in 6 to 12 months. Then you'll have an idea where you stand. I think the powertrain warranty is 5/60. You own the car now so you can only go forward from here. At some point you can also consider a compression / leak down test. In this case, you're going to be establishing cumulative testing results. This will give you a basis on overall engine health.

Did the seller provide service records? Was he / she the original owner? How was the car driven etc. These are all things that may contribute to your situation. So your visual inspection is the first step. Blackstone will be the second. What's next will depend on what you see in the future. Keep a log. It doesn't have to be minutely detailed. Avg. Cylinder head temp, Oil temps etc. At this point now you're still in the information gathering phase.

 

[Area51]

Thanks for all the info I appreciate it.If I get a chance today I’ll add picks of my drain pan pretty much looks like about the same amount of material as in your pic of your drain pan.

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