First oil change...what a pain in the ass 😆

[Doug Watson]

Page 299 owners manual:
“CHECKING THE ENGINE OIL LEVEL

1. Make sure that your vehicle is on level ground.

2. Check the oil level before starting the engine, or switch the engine off after warm up and wait 15 minutes for the oil to drain into the oil pan.

Note: Checking the oil level too soon could result in an inaccurate reading.”

Yes I know what the book says but Ford says only check when hot. I when throught this because Ford just changed my engine for an oil consumption issue.

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[Zig]

Yes I know what the book says but Ford says only check when hot. I when throught this because Ford just changed my engine for an oil consumption issue.

Local ford or Ford that wrote the book? Just didn’t want a rando to read the book was wrong.

 

[Doug Watson]

Local ford or Ford that wrote the book? Just didn’t want a rando to read the book was wrong.

Ford dealer and I also wrote to Ford regarding this issue.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

Once you do it one time the next time will be easier. Takes me about an hour from start to finish. My 2024 book says 10 QTS but it only takes 9.5. Ford screwed up the manual becuase the 2025 says 9.5 and you can verify with your VIN number. Just like Ford dealer states to check the oil level after the engine is hot and then cooled for 15 minutes. Again the book is crap not suppose to chek the level cold. Just had my engine long block replaced after an oil consuption issue burning a qt every 750 miles. Running fine now.

The book is crap? Not supposed to check the level cold?

Where does it say in the book not to check the level when cold?

 

[Doug Watson]

The book is crap? Not supposed to check the level cold?

Where does it say in the book not to check the level when cold?

It says you can check it either way but my dealer is saying that you should not check it cold. I had a big disscussion with them becuase of my oil consumption issue. They had to replace my engine for the oil issue.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

It says you can check it either way but my dealer is saying that you should not check it cold. I had a big disscussion with them becuase of my oil consumption issue. They had to replace my engine for the oil issue.

No it's not. It says before starting the car (cold) or after waiting 15 minutes so that the oil drops.

You said the manual information is crap. It is not.

 

[Doug Watson]

No it's not. It says before starting the car (cold) or after waiting 15 minutes so that the oil drops.

You said the manual information is crap. It is not.

Ok have it your way I'm just passing along what I went through with Ford. The manual is incorrect that they state check cold but Ford doesen't do that anymore so the manual is misleading.

 

[Zig]

Ok have it your way I'm just passing along what I went through with Ford. The manual is incorrect that they state check cold but Ford doesen't do that anymore so the manual is misleading.

Note 1 + note 4 = preferred - operating temperature and 15 minutes cooling/drain back into pan period in order to observe proper level.

cold as in in ice cold may cause inaccurate reading and hot (as in running/just shut off no cool down period) will also be inaccurate.

so warmed with rest is the method via the book?

 

[Frogdog1]

Logic tells me that the best time might be 20 to 25 minutes after turning hot engine off. The oil drains down and is the same temp. as when it was running, which is the temp. and amount of oil it has to work with when running. Oil expands when hot.

 

[Zig]

Logic tells me that the best time might be 20 to 25 minutes after turning hot engine off. The oil drains down and is the same temp. as when it was running, which is the temp. and amount of oil it has to work with when running. Oil expands when hot.

Which, i never figured out the ‘full service’ fuel stations that wanted to check the oil, heck it aint an ev, don’t plan to be there that long.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

Ok have it your way I'm just passing along what I went through with Ford. The manual is incorrect that they state check cold but Ford doesen't do that anymore so the manual is misleading.

You talked about the manual and that it is crap which is not.
Later you said it's your local Ford.

Keep the facts like it is. Otherwise you are misleading people.

 

[Frogdog1]

Checking your oil when cold is not a bad thing. If nothing else, it will tell you how much oil is "leaving" the engine by one means or another, (burning, leaking, etc.) over some period of time. Just do it on the same a flat surface every time. It's just another index. Not the best one to use for an engine while running though.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

It says you can check it either way but my dealer is saying that you should not check it cold. I had a big disscussion with them becuase of my oil consumption issue. They had to replace my engine for the oil issue.

You are confusing what your dealer said with something your dealer did not say. What your dealer actually said does not conflict with the user manual.

You cannot start the engine and then check the oil if the engine has not properly warmed up. That is because it takes too long for the cold oil to drain back into the pan when cold.

Even when warmed up, Ford recommends waiting 15 minutes to check it.

If it has sat overnight, go ahead and check it cold, because the oil has drained back into the pan overnight. If, however, you drive half a mile down to the gas station in January, do not check your oil at the gas station, because your engine has not warmed up. Oil is not all drained back into the pan.

Get it up to temp first. Then shut it off, then wait at least 15 minutes for the oil to drain into the pan. Note that if you wait all night and check it cold in the morning the oil will damn well have all drained back into the pan, or as much as it will ever drain back into the pan.

What your dealer told you and the user manual do not conflict. You are just making something out of what you dealer told you that the dealer did not really intend to communicate to you.

 

[LouG]

Any reason why the bottom cover can't be left off? My 2007 Gt didn't have one making the oil and filter change a cinch.

It's part of airflow management. I wouldn't leave it off.

 

[CMcA]

tho the cylinder head temp does seem to run 5-10 degree cooler

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