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[Gregs24]

I'm not sure that had anything to do with having a woman in charge. The problem was that Honda forgot what the NSX was about. It was NEVER intended to be a high tech show platform, it was intended to be a grounded driver's car. The second Gen NSX did EVERYTHING wrong in that aspect, even if it was decent on paper.

Think of it like when Top Gear voted the Lexus SC430 "The worst car in the history of the world". Not because it was necessarily a bad car, but because it was a car that didn't achieve ANYTHING that it intended to. It was a roadster that only looked like a roadster and handled like an Accord. THAT is what Honda achieved with the new NSX-precisely the opposite of what their audience wanted.

Honda would have been better off just relaunching the original NSX production lines and cranking out new copies of the original. Sure, it was underpowered and showing its age, but it was far more of a driver's car than the new iteration.

Honda and Toyota seem to have forgotten this lesson for the most part., and it wasn't only that woman that is guilty of this. They've done a decent job with the Civic-R and the Integra-S, but too often it's all about packing on tech and hybrid parts rather than producing the cars that their base wants.

Correct. She executed and successfully completed her brief on the car. If that was incorrect then blame the board at Honda for getting it wrong not her.

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[Zig]

Women design cars (and trucks) full stop!

(hey wait that assumes alot)

 

[TVMADoc]

The car was ahead of it's time being a hybrid when they were not common. Volume doesn't determine success - Ferrari, Aston Martin, Lamborghini don't chase volume.

As to your comment about Michelle Christensen - she seems to be doing very well for herself so people in the industry don't share your misogynistic views.

The decision to make the NSX a hybrid was PRECISELY what killed it. That is the anti-thesis of what the NSX was about. I hear rumors of a relaunch of the S2000, but if it's a hybrid/EV platform, it will suffer the same fate.

Hybrid NSX is like doing a "Mustang II" to the platform. It looks like an update, it carries the nameplate, but it is nothing like the original.

 

[Gregs24]

Since when is “designers doing very well” equal loss of revenue and lower sales?

Technically incorrect!

 

[Germansheperd]

I knew a surgeon who got into flipping Ferraris due to this. He waited years to get the entry level purchase, but once he did, he was able to move up the line and buy the more desirable models-he'd keep them about 6 months then flip it for far more than he paid. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I love when people spout off about some exotic and don’t have the faintest clue how you have to buy them AND they don’t factor the 18-24 month order wait.
It’s like that on the Corvette Forum with the GT3RS. I found out first hand trying to order a new 911

 

[Germansheperd]

Engineering success - the vehicle works as designed. NOTHING else determines engineering success.

You are now moving into politics which as you know only too well are not allowed on here.

Nothing I said was political it is fact- nice try though.

 

[Germansheperd]

Technically incorrect!

33k units out of 460k for 2024 is 7%. Did you make it out of the 6th grade?
Post this chart next year for Oct-Dec 2025.

 

[Zig]

33k units out of 460k for 2024 is 7%. Did you make it out of the 6th grade?
Post this chart next year for Oct-Dec 2025.

Any yet only one monah lisa

 

[Gregs24]

33k units out of 460k for 2024 is 7%. Did you make it out of the 6th grade?
Post this chart next year for Oct-Dec 2025.

No problem with my maths. You posted incorrectly about sales declining when they are rising. FACT. I did not mention the petrol F150 as it was not the vehicle I was talking about. As to the the future, you may have a strong opinion but it is simply that, an opinion. Nobody, including you, knows the answer there.

 

[Gregs24]

Any yet only one monah lisa

It's time for your tablets again.

No 'h' on Mona either

 

[Gregs24]

Nothing I said was political it is fact- nice try though.

Yeah right!

Now that that the sales won’t be subsidized by the US taxpayer after Sept sales will drop like a rock.

 

[Zig]

It's time for your tablets again.

No 'h' on Mona either

Even with a typo comprehension does not allude.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Nothing I said was political it is fact- nice try though.

Absolutely nothing you say is fact. It's all your misogynistic narrative based on your feelings. Follow your own advise.

 

[Gregs24]

Even with a typo comprehension does not allude.

Any yet only one monah lisa

Not recognisable English, not a sentence, incomprehensible.

 

[Germansheperd]

No problem with my maths. You posted incorrectly about sales declining when they are rising. FACT. I did not mention the petrol F150 as it was not the vehicle I was talking about. As to the the future, you may have a strong opinion but it is simply that, an opinion. Nobody, including you, knows the answer there.

I never said they were “declining”. Post where I said that I’ll wait for that. I insinuated they will be in decline come Oct of 2025.

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