Biggest frustration… track mode!

[AzkAdAsh]

I think you missed the point. He is not complaining about the safety features. He is complaining about the fact that you can't control Magneride to your own preference. The stiffer suspension on the Magneride is only available you choose the track drive mode.

He want's to use stiffer suspension whenever he wants, since Ford gives you the option to make a costum profile and choose different drive modes, different steering wheel modes, different exhaust modes and different suspension modes.

But when choosing a drive mode that is not track mode, you can't choose the track suspension mode. This is just plain stupid.

Yes. He complained that he can't have his car in track mode and have the safety features active at the same time. I understand what he was saying. He specifically asked:

Why does Ford puts us in this situation to have to choose between driving pleasure and security features?

I'm only explaining that his chosen mode for "driving pleasure" wasn't designed for road use. Had he asked something like "why won't Ford let me adjust my suspension settings independently of my safety features?" we'd be having a completely different conversation. Ford didn't put him in a position to choose between being safe and being unsafe. Ford said, "If you're going to take this to the track, use this mode and the nannies will be put on the back burner so you can have fun." They did not say, "Please use this track focused mode for daily driving even though we've turned off the nannies because we want you to be a danger to yourself and others."

As an aside, I lived in Germany for three years as a younger man and drove all over Europe, France included, mostly in a '93 Mazda 323F with suspension that was far from "performance" even by the standards of the time and I never had any issues with traction loss on the highways. The curves aren't steep enough to lose traction if OP is doing the speed limit, or even a fair bit above. It seems more likely that he likes to use the highways as a racetrack, taking the corners at high speeds, which would justify a need for stiffer suspension, but it also increases the risk of breaking lose, hence his concern about not having traction control.

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[GrabThatBlue]

Yes. He complained that he can't have his car in track mode and have the safety features active at the same time. I understand what he was saying.

This is the exact the reason why I told you that you missed the point. You still are missing the point.

He did not complain about that he wants to use his car on track mode while having the safety features on.

He complained about wanting to use his Magneride setting on track mode. I think yiu did not understand because you don't have Magneride and was mixing up the Track mode as a drive mode with Track mode as a Magneride setting.

Please read again to understand.

 

[AzkAdAsh]

This is the exact the reason why I told you that you missed the point. You still are missing the point.

He did not complain about that he wants to use his car on track mode while having the safety features on.

Please read again to understand.

He wants the stiffer suspension from track mode and the nannies from normie mode. I get it, but he's saying that because of not being able to have both at the same time he's stuck choosing between track mode and the risks associate with it, or normie mode and not having the suspension. All I did was explain why track mode doesn't have the nannies.

 

[GrabThatBlue]

He wants the stiffer suspension from track mode and the nannies from normie mode. I get it, but he's saying that because of not being able to have both at the same time he's stuck choosing between track mode and the risks associate with it, or normie mode and not having the suspension. All I did was explain why track mode doesn't have the nannies.

I quit.

 

[AzkAdAsh]

I quit.

No. Stop. Come back. I'll miss you so much.

 

[jml]

As Grabthatblue mentioned, my point is: I would love to have the stiffer suspension in whatever driving mode I choose, and not only in track mode.
Like in a BMW or in my wife’s Audi A5.
Yes I like driving fast. That’s why I bought a Mustang. If I wanted to drive slow I would have gotten a Toyota SUV…

 

[AZ_Ryan]

No. Stop. Come back. I'll miss you so much.

Let him go man. All he does is argue with everyone and then put you on 2-way ignore to be passive aggressive.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

As Grabthatblue mentioned, my point is: I would love to have the stiffer suspension in whatever driving mode I choose, and not only in track mode.
Like in a BMW or in my wife’s Audi A5.
Yes I like driving fast. That’s why I bought a Mustang. If I wanted to drive slow I would have gotten a Toyota SUV…

Sorry your disappointed. Like I mentioned previously, no Mustang outside the Shelby, has ever had magnaride settings independent of the drive modes. It was a huge discussion with the S550s as well, where many people (including me) were disappointed too. It's one of the reasons why I think magnaride is an overrated option on these cars.

 

[jml]

Yeah, I agree. It’s my 1st own Mustang, and when I drove it I didn’t realize this.
I could live with having the stiff suspension only in track mode … if I could have the option of keeping the nannies on.

I think one day I will get an upgrade to stiffen the suspension, but here in Europe it’s not obvious to find a garage who I can trust to do this.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Yeah, I agree. It’s my 1st own Mustang, and when I drove it I didn’t realize this.
I could live with having the stiff suspension only in track mode … if I could have the option of keeping the nannies on.

I think one day I will get an upgrade to stiffen the suspension, but here in Europe it’s not obvious to find a garage who I can trust to do this.

I was going to say, a simple spring swap sounds like it would benefit you. Maybe the Steeda Dual Rates.

 

[AzkAdAsh]

As Grabthatblue mentioned, my point is: I would love to have the stiffer suspension in whatever driving mode I choose, and not only in track mode.
Like in a BMW or in my wife’s Audi A5.
Yes I like driving fast. That’s why I bought a Mustang. If I wanted to drive slow I would have gotten a Toyota SUV…

Right, but all of this because the stiffer suspension is locked to track mode, which turns off or reduces the safety features. I wasn't saying that the stiffer suspension shouldn't be available in all drive modes, which is your complaint, or that you shouldn't enjoy driving fast. I do, too. I get it and I understand what you're trying to say. No arguments. I was only explaining why the safety features are turned off or reduced in track mode specifically, which is the mode your locked into choosing if you want the stiffer suspension, but lacks the safety features for the reason I originally mentioned. That is the core of the "choice" between safety and driving pleasure that you originally mentioned. As it is now, you have to choose between driving in track mode for the superior suspension or sport mode for the safety.

 

[AzkAdAsh]

Yeah, I agree. It’s my 1st own Mustang, and when I drove it I didn’t realize this.
I could live with having the stiff suspension only in track mode … if I could have the option of keeping the nannies on.

I think one day I will get an upgrade to stiffen the suspension, but here in Europe it’s not obvious to find a garage who I can trust to do this.

Isn't this exactly what GrabthatBlue was trying to tell me wasn't the point?

 

[AzkAdAsh]

Let him go man. All he does is argue with everyone and then put you on 2-way ignore to be passive aggressive.

Didn't expect him to delete his posts. Now it looks like I'm talking to myself.

 

[jml]

Right, but all of this because the stiffer suspension is locked to track mode, which turns off or reduces the safety features. I wasn't saying that the stiffer suspension shouldn't be available in all drive modes, which is your complaint, or that you shouldn't enjoy driving fast. I do, too. I get it and I understand what you're trying to say. No arguments. I was only explaining why the safety features are turned off or reduced in track mode specifically, which is the mode your locked into choosing if you want the stiffer suspension, but lacks the safety features for the reason I originally mentioned. That is the core of the "choice" between safety and driving pleasure that you originally mentioned. As it is now, you have to choose between driving in track mode for the superior suspension or sport mode for the safety.

AGREED! I may look into stiffer springs… but wife won’t be happy when cruising around, Mustang is pretty comfy in slow driving…

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Didn't expect him to delete his posts. Now it looks like I'm talking to myself.

He didn't delete his posts. He put you on 2-way ignore. Which means instead of just ignoring your posts, he makes it so you can't see his posts either. Dude is a straight up child.

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