anyone else's auto throttle input for manuals giving out?

[eldnov]

You need more practicing. Yes there is a "bite point", but you should never search for it. It should be one continuous motion. Again:
1. add gas
2. as you started adding gas start releasing the clutch.


So it's one continuous motion, where the left foot lags behind the right foot.

There should be no single point where the car lurches forward. It picks up the speed smoothly. That's what you should be going for. Remember: clutch should be behind the gas pedal.


Here's how I learned to do it properly. An exercise:

1. I revved up my car to 1,500 RPMs with clutch depressed
2. started releasing the clutch, while watching the RPMs staying steady, by making whatever adjustments are needed with the gas pedal.

And you get going. That's the exercise you need to do. It's annoying, it's frustrating at first.


As I got better, I can do the same starting out with the lowest RPM that the idling engine allows.

It just takes many hours of practice. Appropriate shoes, like Chucks or vans for me and getting to know your car. Some people also place their feet weird that is another source of discomfort.

i appreciate the lecture but i understand the fundementals of a manual. since my auto throttle input is acting up i've been trying to figure out how to fix this for a little bit now. if i were to try to hold the car at 1500 rpms it would instantly start jolting, i would i have to basically dump the clutch as quick as i can but smoothly, at least that's how it would be if i held it for longer than a second or two.

i've practiced feel and doing one smooth motion with all the shoes i own and i've even done it barefoot when i broke my ankle. i'll continue to practice but right now it's just a weird learning curve with my auto throttle acting up.

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[LouG]

i've practiced feel and doing one smooth motion with all the shoes i own and i've even done it barefoot when i broke my ankle. i'll continue to practice but right now it's just a weird learning curve with my auto throttle acting up.

This just reminded me of Bruce McLaren starting his racing career here not wearing shoes, because barefeet gave him better feel.

 

[Dxm]

I have no idea how you can feel the clutch barefoot--my guess is that you don't press it as you are supposed to. If I ever lost my shoes, yeah, I'd probably be able to drive myself home, but it'd be extremely uncomfortable for my left foot.

FWIW, you should not drive with the sports/track modes if you are new to stick shift, because the gas pedal is very sensitive to over-revving. Maybe even try the slippery drive mode at first?

I personally prefer normal mode, after experimenting with all the modes. Sure it doesn't sound as good (on my passive exhaust there's a difference), but it's very stable, while allowing me to accelerate as much as I please without spinning out. But I hate the uncontrollable jolting/loss of traction that the sports modes create here in TX, unless I really feather the gas pedal.

OK, you can investigate your throttle input, prove me wrong Best of luck.

 

[TMR]

Appropriate shoes, like Chucks or vans for me and getting to know your car.

Shoes are a great point. Today's trainers and running shoes have a lot more structure and cushion than shoes did when I started driving. Definitely makes it hard to get pedal feedback.
Driving shoes are not available for my clown feet, but I found "barefoot" shoes on Amazon for ~$25. I found these helped a lot as I was getting back into a manual after 30+ years.

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

I've found Vans are still the best shoes for driving once they break in, and I've tried just about everything.

Specifically the first iteration of the MTE's that they phased out around 2021.

 

[Alex381]

I've found Vans are still the best shoes for driving once they break in, and I've tried just about everything.

Specifically the first iteration of the MTE's that they phased out around 2021.

I used to wear vivo barefoot shoes back when they still used Kevlar for the soles. Those were the best driving shoes I’ve ever owned. Vans have practically rock hard soles and I’ve never found them to be good for pedal feel.

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

I used to wear vivo barefoot shoes back when they still used Kevlar for the soles. Those were the best driving shoes I’ve ever owned. Vans have practically rock hard soles and I’ve never found them to be good for pedal feel.

The first version of the MTE's were rather soft, and once you wore them down a bit you could practically wrap your toes around the pedal through the sole.

It was seriously next level, and I have been looking for something similar ever since. The pedal feel was so good, and now those shoes are gone. I have a few pairs laying around, but they're entirely worn down on the left side from rotating around the brake pedal to blip the throttle, lol

 

[RJW]

I'm showing my age here, but if manufacturers think their customers can't drive a manual without all this nonsense, should they be selling them? A properly calibrated throttle response and a clutch pedal with feel, job done.

I'm going to make an argument for these driver aids. I love cars with manual transmissions, and it doesn't bother me that I live in a place that is very hilly. My wife can drive a stick shift but prefers not to. Being at a red light on an uphill slope is intimidating for people who only drive a manual transmission very occasionally. Having features like rev-matching and hill hold will make it easier for her to feel comfortable driving the Mustang on occasion.

 

[Aki]

I'm going to make an argument for these driver aids. I love cars with manual transmissions, and it doesn't bother me that I live in a place that is very hilly. My wife can drive a stick shift but prefers not to. Being at a red light on an uphill slope is intimidating for people who only drive a manual transmission very occasionally. Having features like rev-matching and hill hold will make it easier for her to feel comfortable driving the Mustang on occasion.

Very much agree. I want my GF to be able to enjoy the mustang without my decades of practice. The big, powerful car is intimidating enough, if it was also hard to drive it would be way too daunting.

 

[Dxm]

Very much agree. I want my GF to be able to enjoy the mustang without my decades of practice. The big, powerful car is intimidating enough, if it was also hard to drive it would be way too daunting.

Both are cool features, but I disabled them. They came back after firmware update, and I disabled them again. The rev matching doesn't really bother me, as I do my own rev matching when I double-clutch and it does nothing. But still it was defeating the purpose of driving a manual.

Hill assist is nice if you live in San Francisco, or other hilly city. It's a giant pain in the rear to get going up a hill in traffic without rolling back.

One thing is the auto-hold--it's actually kind-of neat. I don't use it all the time, but I've assigned it to the star button. Sometimes when stuck in traffic, you can basically park yourself by pressing the brake harder. As much as I think the new automatic parking brake is garbage (forgetting to engage it, no physical lever), the fact that it can engage and disengage automatically is a nice feature.

 

[LouG]

Very much agree. I want my GF to be able to enjoy the mustang without my decades of practice. The big, powerful car is intimidating enough, if it was also hard to drive it would be way too daunting.

There's a good argument that big, powerful cars should be hard to drive. Because the end result is sub 3 sec to 60 EV's are being driven by people who should be on bicycles.

 

[LouG]

I'm going to make an argument for these driver aids. I love cars with manual transmissions, and it doesn't bother me that I live in a place that is very hilly. My wife can drive a stick shift but prefers not to. Being at a red light on an uphill slope is intimidating for people who only drive a manual transmission very occasionally. Having features like rev-matching and hill hold will make it easier for her to feel comfortable driving the Mustang on occasion.

Fair enough. But when the handbrake cable on my Dad's car snapped on my driver test, it was only my ability to heel and toe for the hill start that allowed me to pass. The cop even said so.

 

[Jim Hendrickson]

I have to say this was pretty new to me too. I've always driven older manuals from the 90's and 00's era. This is my first modern manual vehicle (2026 GT manual). I've only owned it for 3 days now and as much as I can understand the assistance to not let the car stall, there are certain circumstances this is entirely undesirable. For example, I got a 2 car garage attached to my home. There is a RAM pickup truck parked inside it, which is wider than a regular vehicle. My Mustang fits beside it, but only barely. It requires very careful and slowly parking. So what I normally did with my older manuals is just find the bite point in the clutch and let it slowly roll forward. This car REALLY wants to go once you get the clutch at the bite point. So I find myself doing a lot of: bite point -> clutch / brake -> bite point -> clutch / brake, because I don't want to ram the car into my wall or my pickup truck.

Is this a feature that can be disabled? I know how to not stall a manual car so I don't really need this type of assistance.

Now I feel really stupid. I have been bitching about the GT speeding away in reverse. I back it into my garage with probably 4 +/- inches on a side starting about 10 feet from the opening. I have driven it in at what feels like a run, scarry, now I bounce off the bite like a newbie. I thought it was a design flaw, as in reverse being too high of a gear. Since 3rd and 4th are also higher gearing than I would rather have...,

I know it is not the topic of this thread, but, is your oil temperature higher than the cylinder head temperature when completely warmed up? Mine is, probably a good reason why it's should be.

BTW, congrats on the new car. I have 2500 miles on mine. The wife and I are on a road trip. In the past 5 days, the trip odometer shows we have been traveling for over 24 hours. Started in SC (home) to mountains in NC, tonight we are in upper state NY. It was 73 degrees today, sunny and fun.

 

[Sofa King]

It all comes down to the shoes...

 

[tastetickles]

Honestly I think the AutoHold feature is for the 10 speed in mind, it makes sense to prevent autos from moving by itself during a stop and go jam. On a manual it messes u up when u add throttle to move from a standstill when paired with the hill assist and the auto blip when clutch out.

I was jerking all over the place in the first few stop and go traffic then I realized there is an extra AutoHold in the menu.

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