$79 Subwoofer Upgrade (Pioneer TS-A250D4 10" Sub) - IT SOUNDS GREAT!

[Sofa King]

The Amazon pic and the adapters in @rhstang's pics look different, but that doesn't mean anything.

If anyone else who has ordered these and can confirm they fit the S650, please advise and (if you have it) provide a link to exactly what you ordered. Thanks!

This is the link (https://a.co/d/8FtzkJE) to what i purchased and as mentioned above i cut off the end connectors to fit directly into the speaker terminals

Those are the same one's that I used.

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[steveo1960]

Those are the same one's that I used.

Same here. Does the plug end fit?

 

[rhstang]

Same here. Does the plug end fit?

Yes 100% no issues on the plug end

 

[Sofa King]

Same here. Does the plug end fit?

Yep...

 

[roadpilot]

This is the link (https://a.co/d/8FtzkJE) to what i purchased and as mentioned above i cut off the end connectors to fit directly into the speaker terminals

Thank you, @rhstang

 

[rhstang]

I got the Pioneer sub installed last night and took a few more measurements. From a data perspective the Pioneer sub definitely it a bit louder especially in the 40-80Hz range. You can also see from the graph that the Polyfill made little difference at least in my test. I am not sure the human ear to actually notice the difference with and without the polyfill.

I still want to do some more testing. I guess there is an optimal amount of polyfill to add depending on the cubic volume of the box.

It was also interesting to see that it appears the Pioneer sub wasn't as loud in the 15-30Hz range

 

[Adefend]

Has anyone gone a step further and started replacing some of the other speakers with better quality? I replaced the sub which has made a little difference but just curious if expanding the upgrade to other speakers was a reasonable option without adding amp etc.

 

[steveo1960]

I got the Pioneer sub installed last night and took a few more measurements. From a data perspective the Pioneer sub definitely it a bit louder especially in the 40-80Hz range. You can also see from the graph that the Polyfill made little difference at least in my test. I am not sure the human ear to actually notice the difference with and without the polyfill.

I still want to do some more testing. I guess there is an optimal amount of polyfill to add depending on the cubic volume of the box.

It was also interesting to see that it appears the Pioneer sub wasn't as loud in the 15-30Hz range

I'm surprised to see the OEM unit have a higher output below 30hz or so. If I would have guessed just by listening that it would have dropped off much higher in frequency as to my ears it sounds "thumpy". Thanks for testing.

 

[Gregs24]

I got the Pioneer sub installed last night and took a few more measurements. From a data perspective the Pioneer sub definitely it a bit louder especially in the 40-80Hz range. You can also see from the graph that the Polyfill made little difference at least in my test. I am not sure the human ear to actually notice the difference with and without the polyfill.

I still want to do some more testing. I guess there is an optimal amount of polyfill to add depending on the cubic volume of the box.

It was also interesting to see that it appears the Pioneer sub wasn't as loud in the 15-30Hz range

Power is nothing without control as the saying goes. The Pioneer has much more control over the cone which means far tighter musical bass rather than just a flabby booming noise. Bass has more than one note to it!

 

[Pmamba]

Does anyone what the factory rms for the B&O amp is?

I was casually looking around at different subs and wondering if a lower rated rms sub would sound better due to less power requirements.

 

[Magic88]

Driving the Mustang the last 2 days because the daughter is borrowing my truck, the Redline definitely has more bass at lower volume. With the Pioneer, I was at 15 to hear a good thump. The Redline is thumping decent at 10. At 15 or above, I have to turn it down at stop lights/signs so I don't look too stupid. Granted, this is songs that have bass in it. Classic rock is still pretty non existent like it was intended to be.

 

[roadpilot]

At 15 or above, I have to turn it down at stop lights/signs so I don't look too stupid.

Why would you give a chit what someone else thinks? Rock on !!

 

[Magic88]

Why would you give a chit what someone else thinks? Rock on !!

I do it with my daughters in the car to embarrass them, I prefer to be a little low key for myself. I"m guessing a shiny blue Mustang that's got an H-pipe in sport mode driving isn't really low key.

Yeah, f-it, Rock on!!!!

 

[rhstang]

Does anyone what the factory rms for the B&O amp is?

I was casually looking around at different subs and wondering if a lower rated rms sub would sound better due to less power requirements.

Thats a good question. Also where is this B&O amp even located at on the s650

 

[RLE55]

Why would you give a chit what someone else thinks? Rock on !!

I do it with my daughters in the car to embarrass them, I prefer to be a little low key for myself. I"m guessing a shiny blue Mustang that's got an H-pipe in sport mode driving isn't really low key.

Yeah, f-it, Rock on!!!!

I always crank it up for Led Zeppelin and Steppenwolf.

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