2024 Mustang sales lowest in history of Mustang

[MustangMitch69]

You think it's worth $10,000 more than the base Ecoboost?

That's not so crazy, in my opinion, considering that a lot of BMW's and Porsche's have a similar gap between trim levels based mostly on engine differences.

My daily driver is a '25 BMW 330i with a turbo 4 with a MSRP of $46k. The M340i is basically the same car but with a turbo inline 6 and its MSRP is $60k.

Similarly, consider the Porsche 718 cayman with a 2.0L turbo flat 4 with a base MSRP of $74k. If you just want a 2.5L turbo flat 4 (the S model) you're looking at $86k. Upgrade to the GTS 4.0 (not even the RS!) with a flat six and you're looking at $101K MSRP!

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[robvas]

Sure but a BMW is like $25k

a Coyote is like $9000 and a EB is $4000

 

[MustangMitch69]

No, I don't think it's worth that huge difference. A base Mustang starts around $32,000. For me, a base GT is not worth 30%+ more. I wanted a GT when I bought my ecoboost. The main reason I didn't get it was price. The second was worse gas mileage. I didn't really care about the extra power. I just wanted the power sound a GT gives. Just the sound but, wasn't willing to throw away $10,000 just to hear it. Actually, I think it was $8000 extra in 2018 when I bought my current ecoboost. Still wasn't willing to throw that much away to hear the nice sounding exhaust.

The ecoboost doesn't get enough credit, in my opinion. It's a really good looking car for the price, and makes a lot more sense for city drivers who aren't doing much speeding or canyon carving (the latter of which camaros are better at anyway).

It's 0-60 time is less than a second slower than the GT, so at lower speeds there's basically no difference in acceleration.

I planned on buying an ecoboost instead of my GT actually, but I got talked into test driving the GT and loved it.

Sure but a BMW is like $25k

a Coyote is like $9000 and a EB is $4000

$9K isn't as bad as I thought for a coyote. Surprised more people aren't swapping them into the chassis of some of the older more popular mustangs, if they fit. That's less than whipple wants for just an S650 supercharger.

 

[Bikeman315]

Were any of you here in 2014? The difference in price between the S550 EB & GT was $10k. Nothings changed in that regard for ten years. That‘s what is was and that is what it is. And it most likely will remain that way until the GT is killed.

 

[robvas]

The ecoboost doesn't get enough credit, in my opinion. It's a really good looking car for the price, and makes a lot more sense for city drivers who aren't doing much speeding or canyon carving (the latter of which camaros are better at anyway).

It's 0-60 time is less than a second slower than the GT, so at lower speeds there's basically no difference in acceleration.

I planned on buying an ecoboost instead of my GT actually, but I got hig


$9K isn't as bad as I thought for a coyote. Surprised more people aren't swapping them into the chassis of some of the older more popular mustangs, if they fit. That's less than whipple wants for just an S650 supercharger.

Shouldn't use 0-60 numbers to just acceleration or power

 

[iBookmaster]

The ecoboost doesn't get enough credit, in my opinion. It's a really good looking car for the price, and makes a lot more sense for city drivers who aren't doing much speeding or canyon carving (the latter of which camaros are better at anyway).

It's 0-60 time is less than a second slower than the GT, so at lower speeds there's basically no difference in acceleration.

I planned on buying an ecoboost instead of my GT actually, but I got hig


$9K isn't as bad as I thought for a coyote. Surprised more people aren't swapping them into the chassis of some of the older more popular mustangs, if they fit. That's less than whipple wants for just an S650 supercharger.

The ecoboost is a great car. That's why I have one. It's the same car to me as the GT. It just has a smaller worse sounding engine/exhaust. Another reason that I don't think has been mentioned about slumping Mustang sales is, people may already have a Mustang and are happy with it. Don't feel any need to upgrade/trade in. That's where I'm at. I have 93,000 miles on my 2003 ecoboost with no need/want to upgrade with these high prices.

 

[Bikeman315]

The ecoboost is a great car. That's why I have one. It's the same car to me as the GT. It just has a smaller worse sounding engine/exhaust. Another reason that I don't think has been mentioned about slumping Mustang sales is, people may already have a Mustang and are happy with it. Don't feel any need to upgrade/trade in. That's where I'm at. I have 93,000 miles on my 2003 ecoboost with no need/want to upgrade with these high prices.

I totally agree with you on that. Was at my dealer today for an oil change and was discussing the price issue with the GM & sales manager. My ‘19 GT/CS has just over 16k miles on it and runs beautifully. I bought the extended warranty just in case. I like the S650 but not enough to plunk down $63k for a new one. I’m sure there are plenty of S550 owners that feel the same way.

 

[MustangMitch69]

Some critics are saying the S650 is basically just the S550 with more screens on the inside. That's an over-generalization, obviously, but if I started out with an S550 I wouldn't have made the leap and put up the extra coin for the S650. If the steering and chassis were noticeably improved, maybe, but they weren't.

As has already been stated a million times, inflation skyrocketed after 2019, so similarly, I have no interest in buying a new house since I bought one before then, and now they cost way more for basically the same thing I bought before (not due to greedy realtors or sellers, rather due to the economy and inflation.)

What ARE disproportionately overpriced, in my opinion, are the new Shelby Super Snakes for $160K whereas you can alternatively get a brand new Corvette Z06 for 2/3 that price that will probably smoke a Super Snake on a proper track.

 

[Gregs24]

I did read it. I stand by what I said. Base Mustang is priced reasonable. Anything up from the base Mustang with extras gets ridiculous.

That must be why they sell so many Ecoboosts, and have even dropped it here in Europe!

 

[Gregs24]

The base GT is $10,000 more than the base Eco. You're okay with that?

I did post the engine prices yesterday ($3k for the Ecoboost and $14k for the V8) There is your answer!

 

[Gregs24]

Inflation no doubt played a part, but the biggest price increases were in 2023 with the introduction of the S650 and in 2024 for the 2025 model year. US inflation in 2023 was 3.4% and in 2024 was 2.7%. Most real world builds increased by 4 or 5 thousand dollars for the 2025 model year. That's a nearly 10% increase on a 50K car.

EDIT: I'm not against prices going up (because obviously that happens every year) nor am I against Ford making a profit on these cars. I have stated in multiple threads that I want the Mustang to be successful. I've owned mulitple and I consider myself a Mustang enthusiast, which is why I'm a member here. What I think is ridiculous are large price increases with absolutely no additional content or value, which is what we've gotten for 2025. I think consumers have voted with their wallets, which is why this whole thread exists. And if 2024 was bad, wait until the numbers for 2025 come in with the additional price hike.

2025 will be better than 2024 as Ford didn't make any Mustangs at all for many weeks because of constraints on supply.

 

[Gregs24]

I totally agree with you on that. Was at my dealer today for an oil change and was discussing the price issue with the GM & sales manager. My ‘19 GT/CS has just over 16k miles on it and runs beautifully. I bought the extended warranty just in case. I like the S650 but not enough to plunk down $63k for a new one. I’m sure there are plenty of S550 owners that feel the same way.

Interesting figures. I got £32.5k for my 2019GT with 30k miles against a new S650GT for just under £60k. So my old car cost be £48k-£32.5k (£16k) in depreciation over 6 years and it cost £27.5k to change to the new one. Obviously Mustangs here are rare and hold their value very well.

 

[robvas]

I did post the engine prices yesterday ($3k for the Ecoboost and $14k for the V8) There is your answer!

Except those aren't right

more like 4k and 9k

 

[Bikeman315]

Interesting figures. I got £32.5k for my 2019GT with 30k miles against a new S650GT for just under £60k. So my old car cost be £48k-£32.5k (£16k) in depreciation over 6 years and it cost £27.5k to change to the new one. Obviously Mustangs here are rare and hold their value very well.

My car is currently valued at around $30k. A 2025 replacement would be $63k. The difference of $33k is what my ‘15 Ecoboost Premium stickered for. That’s why I’m keeping it.

 

[iBookmaster]

Except those aren't right

more like 4k and 9k

And this is retail price. Not cost to building the car which is why we are talking about cost vs profit. I think this shows there is a lot of profit in the GT price right here.

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