S650 vs RZ34 (Nissan Z)

[DeluxeStang]

And they're a weapon on an long auto-cross course. They have their place in the market.

Mustangs attract a lot of kids (young people, not goats, lol) but have become even more costly to buy and own, which is pricing many of them out of the market. When Mustangs first hit the market a long time ago, they weren't "cheap" to buy then either. Today, we have Joe Biden to thank for fucking up the economy with inflation.

The time value of money is a good thing to know and understand well especially when buying cars, houses, and other big ticket items. None should be bought for instant gratification but, sadly, many are bought that way and it's a costly way to live. Meanwhile, back at the ranch......

Let's not get too political, but both sides have been a shit show when it comes to the economy.

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[Frogdog1]

Yeah, gas prices have dropped since late January.

 

[robvas]

Yeah, gas prices have dropped since late January.

No they haven't

 

[Frogdog1]

No they haven't

They most definitely have where I live and that's what counts to me.

 

[BoostRabbitGT]

I forgot to ask how the Z feels driving in non-spirited applications. How does it feel on regular, speed-limit-abiding city roads?

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

I forgot to ask how the Z feels driving in non-spirited applications. How does it feel on regular, speed-limit-abiding city roads?

It settles down completely. Very comfortable. Its a really great brand new 25 year old car, lmao. It feels like a refined 350 or 370z, which is sort of refreshing considered what most modern cars have become.

The new Z doesnt feel like a rolling computer as much as most new cars do, or at the very least it just hides it well. Wild to think that this platform is as old as it is already.
Only issue for just driving this thing around is the storage space. The rear shelf sits very high and theres very little storage room.

 

[DT-GT]

Sure wish I still had my ‘72 240Z. Bought it new and it was great!!!

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

Sure wish I still had my ‘72 240Z. Bought it new and it was great!!!

Such a stellar car. Its funny, going from working on Jag’s and Healey’s to these, and its hardly any different. The Japanese really just took what was great about those cars, copied it, made it more reliable, and sold it.

Such a great engine, truly

 

[BoostRabbitGT]

It settles down completely. Very comfortable. Its a really great brand new 25 year old car, lmao. It feels like a refined 350 or 370z, which is sort of refreshing considered what most modern cars have become.

The new Z doesnt feel like a rolling computer as much as most new cars do, or at the very least it just hides it well. Wild to think that this platform is as old as it is already.
Only issue for just driving this thing around is the storage space. The rear shelf sits very high and theres very little storage room.

Good to know. I like my EcoBoost, but hope someday I can get into a GT. The '90s 300ZX was my favorite car in my childhood and it's still my favorite Z to this day!

 

[LouG]

I saw an ex-demo 370Z at a local mall yesterday. 1800kms, retail new $91,000, marked down to $69,995.
But I didn't like the look, not very special in any way, and we have a real problem here in that dealers buy used JDM cars in Japan, import them and cut the guts out of the NZ new residuals. It happened to me with my GT86, and I swore I'd never buy another new Jap brand.

 

[glenng6]

They only sell a couple thousand a year. Never sold many 370Z or GT-R's either.

I'm not sure I would call it a failure because it never sold 150,000 a year like the Mustang used to.

Nissan's failure in producing the new Z in numbers and in not producing a convertible is the reason I bought my GT Vert. I waited as long as I was willing to, and gave up the wait. . Glenn

 

[DT-GT]

Exact same for me!!!

Nissan's failure in producing the new Z in numbers and in not producing a convertible is the reason I bought my GT Vert. I waited as long as I was willing to, and gave up the wait. . Glenn

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

People just aren't buying the 400Z. Shame, but the production numbers are pretty abysmal

 

[Kevi]

I remember when Z cars were faster than corvettes. Now they probably couldn't beat a tuned ecoboost mustang. Sad to see what they have become. Why have they been slacking for 30 years? Just because they don't want to out perform the GT-R with the lower spec car?

 

[Cz_Ziemniak]

I remember when Z cars were faster than corvettes. Now they probably couldn't beat a tuned ecoboost mustang. Sad to see what they have become. Why have they been slacking for 30 years? Just because they don't want to out perform the GT-R with the lower spec car?

And a tuned ecoboost couldn't beat a tuned 400Z. Its not that the Z is a bad car, its that the market is ever shrinking and the Z offers nothing to differentiate itself from the competition.

The mustang has a V8, the GR86 and Miata have a low-tech and nanny experience alongside a low entry price, and both the supra and their BMW counterparts have performance.

The Z is far too compromised for most people to buy, that's just the reality.

And if we want to leverage that Z cars used to be faster than corvettes, I specifically remember that the Z32 was considered a pig due to its high weight. It was also very expensive, and certainly not faster than the ZR1, which cost about the same.

If anything, the new Z is just carrying the torch of the original 240/60/80 and 350/370, and its doing a fine job of it, albeit in an ever shrinking enviroment.

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