Agree Sub 4 maybe a pipe dream but he obviously knows something, under ideal conditions.. otherwise his video would be edited. I'm expecting 4.3ish
Yeah, that blank spot would annoy the crap outta me
I was thinking the same thing. Only way you get that number is with alot of HP, boost, or AWD so the car gonna spin.
Any article that says the average person wastes $1,010 of gas per year in idling alone, then says later in the article that a person can save as much as 5% in fuel costs with auto-start/stop if they idle in traffic a lot, is spinning a story without regard for the truth. The average person doesn't spend $20k in gas per year.
My point exactly, I spec'd a fully loaded GT (minus the recaros) just to have a blank staring at me every time I hit the start button.At this point I expect that it is the production panel.
My biggest complaint is the empty space in the first position. On all of the pre-production cars it has been the auto start/stop. That blank button will forever drive me nuts. I was really hoping they would have a different version of that module for cars w/o the feature. So much so that I'm hoping that I can swap in a stop/start panel even if the feature does not work.
It sounds petty, and it is. Having that empty space will make me think about some feature that I could have had but skimped on.
Yea in the same boat hoping for a third party part to replace the whole thing with actual button ASAP
So our cars aren't going to have the auto start/stop feature??
From what I've seen only the Ecoboost supports start/stop if that changes in future idk but hopefully the 5.0l escapes this completely
Obviously the ASS feature can work with a manual, many manufacturers do this, including Ford. It's actually better (well, less objectionable anyway) on a manual than on an automatic, for what it's worth. On an auto the engine shuts down if you're at a stop with foot on brakes. But in a manual you have to be at a stop with car in neutral and foot off clutch pedal (clutch engaged) before the engine shuts down. Arguably that's not as bad.
Not sure if they will or not. May depend on the trim level & engine. I bought two cars in 2022. One has ASS, the other doesn't. On the car without ASS I had to pay an additional $2100 "gas guzzler tax." I would have thought that on something like the Dark Horse they'd just apply the tax and not add the ASS.
"Escape" isn't the right word, exactly. You pay one way or another nowadays. If you "escape" having ASS applied to your car, you're probably paying a gas guzzler tax.
Took my drivers test in a manual, hundred or so years ago and was docked for having the car in neutral at a stop light. Reasoning given is you are not prepared to take action if necessary. So Ford implementing that with requirement that you be in neutral seems strange.
Actually, based on the description of how it works on a manual, this wouldn't be a concern, because you can leave it in gear if you want, and the engine won't turn off. I don't like that feature on automatics at all, but as he described it, it might be just fine on a manual.
There's obviously a difference between what you have to do to pass a driver's test and what you have to do to retain sanity when driving in a big city.
Choice is yours whether to put the car in neutral at a light. All I know is that here in Atlanta you sometimes have to wait quite a while, and I would argue that it would be difficult to take *any* action when completely boxed in. There are also other situations where you are waiting but not at a light, of course.
Don't misunderstand, I will probably be in neutral at the lights. My point is would Ford implement an auto stop feature on a manual transmission vehicle that REQUIRED you to be in neutral when big brother says you should not do that as part of your safe driving habits.There's obviously a difference between what you have to do to pass a driver's test and what you have to do to retain sanity when driving in a big city.
