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Top speed with 4.09 rear gear and MT82?

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About what do you think top speed would be with a 4.09 rear gear with the MT82 transmission? I know Ford limits the car to 155 mph from the factory and I'm wondering if a car with that type of setup would still be able to reach those speeds.
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I'm not sure you could hit 155mph with 4.09s mine is stock with 10R80 and the optional 3.55 ratio and I could not exceed 147mph with my foot to the floor on a level road with 93 octane fuel. Perhaps I wasn't in the right gear for top speed idk I was not shifting manually.
 

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I'm not sure you could hit 155mph with 4.09s mine is stock with 10R80 and the optional 3.55 ratio and I could not exceed 147mph with my foot to the floor on a level road with 93 octane fuel. Perhaps I wasn't in the right gear for top speed idk I was not shifting manually.
I have the 3.55 10r80 in my GT Performance Pack, I've hit 155mph and 156mph on a long straight stretch 2 different days. it can easily do it, unfortunately as soon as you hit the wall, you can feel the computer cut the power to avoid going over the governor.
 

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3:55 gears is the way...just my 2 cents.
 

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3:55 gears is the way...just my 2 cents.
Except the manual transmission is very tall, and 4.09 would be more fun for sure. I'd think the car would still do 155, but even if it were lower, it'll be way more fun at all the other speeds. Alas, I'm running 3.72 still.
 


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it depends. Unmodified it will be slower but it's possible to tell the computer about the different rear end to fix the speedometer. That will probably return you to the 155 mph. On the other hand, the limiter can be removed and the car will go even faster. Be warned that Ford limited it for a reason. Either the tires are speed limited or the aerodynamic might cause the car to lift off.
The tires on my Dark Horse have a 180 mph rating thus the 170 mph limit.
My roommate has a 2000 Crown vic that served as a police car. The limiter has been removed on it so it's only limited by what the 4.6 engine can provide.
 

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If you can bottom out 5th gear in a 4.09 geared MT82D4 you are go
About what do you think top speed would be with a 4.09 rear gear with the MT82 transmission? I know Ford limits the car to 155 mph from the factory and I'm wondering if a car with that type of setup would still be able to reach those speeds.

I have a 2020 S550 with 4.09 gears and the MT82D4 you will be able to in 5th gear. The issue is you will need a tune for the 4.09 gears.

S650 Mustang Top speed with 4.09 rear gear and MT82? 1708463781992
 
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I wish Ford sold a prebuilt 4.09 but they only offer a 3.55 aftermarket. I'm not sure why they think that is a performance option when the factory track pack is a 3.73.
 

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I wish Ford sold a prebuilt 4.09 but they only offer a 3.55 aftermarket. I'm not sure why they think that is a performance option when the factory track pack is a 3.73.
The difference between 3.55 and 3.73 is only about 6% which might make a difference on the track but I am not sure you would notice it in day to day driving. Personally I am not sure that high ratio rear ends is the way to go. The A10 will skip gears indicating the gears are too close together and a lower rear end might be better. My 4 speed 82 transmission was really spaced out but there are advantages remain in first gear as long as possible as you retain the higher torque as long as possible. My dad used to say the first person who shifted would lose the race. Probably true unless you blow the engine. The 82 would go to around 45 miles per hour in first and close to 90 in second. Yes we have far better today but that car could still smoke the tires off the line. Don't believe me? Read the article that I saw before I purchased the car. Remember, in its day this was top of the line and many police department used it as a pursuit car.
 

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The difference between 3.55 and 3.73 is only about 6% which might make a difference on the track but I am not sure you would notice it in day to day driving. Personally I am not sure that high ratio rear ends is the way to go. The A10 will skip gears indicating the gears are too close together and a lower rear end might be better. My 4 speed 82 transmission was really spaced out but there are advantages remain in first gear as long as possible as you retain the higher torque as long as possible. My dad used to say the first person who shifted would lose the race. Probably true unless you blow the engine. The 82 would go to around 45 miles per hour in first and close to 90 in second. Yes we have far better today but that car could still smoke the tires off the line. Don't believe me? Read the article that I saw before I purchased the car. Remember, in its day this was top of the line and many police department used it as a pursuit car.

It made a huge difference in my car, if you have the MT82D4 it brings the ratios closer to what the 2015-2017 MT82.
 

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i did some quick simulation tests
4.09 diff with the 10R80 runs out of steam at ~211mph, 10th @ 7100rpm
4.09 diff with the MT-82 runs out of steam at ~209mph, 6th @ 6900rpm
4.09 diff with the TR-3160 runs out of steam at ~210mph, 6th @7000rpm
 
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I have a MT-82 manual whichever version they are on in the 24 Mustang with a 3.55 rear gear. From what I have heard it sounds like I should go up to the 4.09 when offered if I stay NA or just keep what I have if I get a supercharger. I think some of the turbo gang would still opt to run a 4.09 being it is more peaky and doesn't offer the direct hit in the low end right away that a supercharger provides. That's just my general mindset. I could be wrong.
 

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i did some quick simulation tests
4.09 diff with the 10R80 runs out of steam at ~211mph, 10th @ 7100rpm
4.09 diff with the MT-82 runs out of steam at ~209mph, 6th @ 6900rpm
4.09 diff with the TR-3160 maxes out at 170mph, 6th @ 7500rpm
That can't be right. All three transmission have a final gear between .62 and .64 so you would expect the top speed to be nearly the same. Either the rev limiter is in place for the tr-3160 or you are using 5th gear instead of 6th gear. As a double check 2,000 RPM is about 70 miles per hour in my car. There isn't that much difference in the rear end.
2024 specifications.
 

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That can't be right. All three transmission have a final gear between .62 and .64 so you would expect the top speed to be nearly the same. Either the rev limiter is in place for the tr-3160 or you are using 5th gear instead of 6th gear. As a double check 2,000 RPM is about 70 miles per hour in my car. There isn't that much difference in the rear end.
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i just checked and you are right, somehow i had the TR-3160's 6th gear in the simulator set to 0.829:1. the corrected test shows it runs out of steam at ~210mph, 6th @7000rpm
 

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Pretty sure someone has tried to change the gear ratio in a 2024 already & it didn't like it! You will need to tune it which is at this point not possible.
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