S650 No Lift Shift

[Modn]

Not sure it was clear, but what I was wondering is if there was any comparison between the aggressive gear change using No Lift Shift in the MT-82 and the 10R80 shifting through all the gears aggressively when going WOT. Hopefully that makes sense.





I love my manual and can shift pretty quick, but the auto absolutely wins on quickness of shifts. I think that is what you were getting at?

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[Modn]

Would you recommend setting the performance shift indicator to the no-lift range?

I have mine set at 7000. Only time I need or want a shift light is if I'm ringing it out. Just me personally though.

 

[Eurasianman]

Sorry for the clarity and maybe it's not a thing. But in the manual, I, personally, consider No Lift Shift (NLS) as an aggressive gear change and harsh clutch disengage/engagements. I know automatics are different from manuals, but when, I guess, drag racing with a 10R80 transmission, you're making the automatic "shift hard" under wide open throttle and wonder if under those conditions with the 10R80, would that be considered equivalent to (NLS) the MT-82.

No doubt the automatic is quicker. An S650 2.3L EcoBoost with the 10R80 can easily keep up and/or beat an S650 5.0L with the MT-82 (driver of the 5.0L was most definitely lacking driver mod).

Just curious and want to learn.

 

[Zig]

Sorry for the clarity and maybe it's not a thing. But in the manual, I, personally, consider No Lift Shift (NLS) as an aggressive gear change and harsh clutch disengage/engagements. I know automatics are different from manuals, but when, I guess, drag racing with a 10R80 transmission, you're making the automatic "shift hard" under wide open throttle and wonder if under those conditions with the 10R80, would that be considered equivalent to (NLS) the MT-82.

No doubt the automatic is quicker. An S650 2.3L EcoBoost with the 10R80 can easily keep up and/or beat an S650 5.0L with the MT-82 (driver of the 5.0L was most definitely lacking driver mod).

Just curious and want to learn.

Yes, however, and but….. not as violent, autos use smaller steps to eventually arrive at or near the same final ratio. Think of it like a 10 speed vs a 5 speed bicycle. I know, not the same but concept wise. The gears on the bike is the transmission and you are the engine.

 

[GhastlyTT]

Sorry for the clarity and maybe it's not a thing. But in the manual, I, personally, consider No Lift Shift (NLS) as an aggressive gear change and harsh clutch disengage/engagements. I know automatics are different from manuals, but when, I guess, drag racing with a 10R80 transmission, you're making the automatic "shift hard" under wide open throttle and wonder if under those conditions with the 10R80, would that be considered equivalent to (NLS) the MT-82.

No doubt the automatic is quicker. An S650 2.3L EcoBoost with the 10R80 can easily keep up and/or beat an S650 5.0L with the MT-82 (driver of the 5.0L was most definitely lacking driver mod).

Just curious and want to learn.

It is an aggressive gear change but that's the point You use it when you're trying to extract the most out of the car. I'd find it logical that it could actually be easier on the drivetrain than manually getting back on the gas because the ECU is basing it on the clutch sensor and resuming power at the right time as opposed to your right foot maybe going back to the floor too early or too late as you let the clutch out.

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