Official 2025 Mustang GTD Figures: 815 HP / 664 LB-FT / 202 MPH Top Speed

[kagemusha2662]

Aren't both the GTD and ZR1 rumored to be targeting sub 7 minute ring times?

And isn't the ZR1 MSRP starting at only $180k?

If you ask anyone who has enough money to get either the ZR1 or the GTD, you'd probably find most people lean towards the ZR1. People only care about horsepower numbers and price.

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[Q6543]

So let’s nail this down some… I think the ZR1 is going to be 300K plus (msrp is not part of the discussion unless you’re jay leno or Johnny GM)

And it won’t be within 10 seconds of the GTD.
Further proving the BARGAIN… that the GTD is.

If they say they’re targeting sub 7, I think they’re going for 6:30s #1

 

[kagemusha2662]

So let’s nail this down some… I think the ZR1 is going to be 300K plus (msrp is not part of the discussion unless you’re jay leno or Johnny GM)

And it won’t be within 10 seconds of the GTD.
Further proving the BARGAIN… that the GTD is.

If they say they’re targeting sub 7, I think they’re going for 6:30s #1

1. Don't think ZR1 will be 300k, especially considering the Zora is basically confirmed at this point, which will drive down the price of the ZR1.
2. You have a lot of faith in the GTD, which I respect, but neither of us can say anything about the times until they are released officially, which they have not despite months of testing.

 

[robvas]

So let’s nail this down some… I think the ZR1 is going to be 300K plus (msrp is not part of the discussion unless you’re jay leno or Johnny GM)

And it won’t be within 10 seconds of the GTD.
Further proving the BARGAIN… that the GTD is.

If they say they’re targeting sub 7, I think they’re going for 6:30s #1

Anyone can go to the GM dealer and buy a ZR1 though. You didn't have to make the list of approved YouTube celebrities.

After the GTD's end up at auctions or on the market they'll go up as well.

I guess we'll have to wait until both cars are on the roads to see how they perform.

 

[Dragster]

I understand this point of view, but at the road courses you see a lot of variety so it's not entirely uncommon to see Porsches, Viper's, ZR-1's, Ferrari's, BMW's all in the price range of 100,000 - 200,000 and I'm positive I'll see a GTD out there in no time.

I'm not going to say you'll NEVER see one at a track, but I tend to side with young at heart on this one. I don't think many will see the track simply because of how limited the car is. It's the same reason you may see an F8 at the track, but not an F50. The risk is simply too high and the cost and difficulty in replacing the car isn't worth it. Track insurance typically has a cap as well, if your regular insuance doesn't cover tracking. While the GTD may start out as a 325K car, I'm willing to bet that it will be worth signficantly more two years later when we see them start to hit auctions, and there are going to be a lot of owners that aren't going to risk that.

 

[Q6543]

No you can’t lol, maybe now you can go buy a leftover c7 ZR1 5 years later for 200K.

 

[kagemusha2662]

I'm not going to say you'll NEVER see one at a track, but I tend to side with young at heart on this one. I don't think many will see the track simply because of how limited the car is. It's the same reason you may see an F8 at the track, but not an F50. The risk is simply too high and the cost and difficulty in replacing the car isn't worth it. Track insurance typically has a cap as well, if your regular insuance doesn't cover tracking. While the GTD may start out as a 325K car, I'm willing to bet that it will be worth signficantly more two years later when we see them start to hit auctions, and there are going to be a lot of owners that aren't going to risk that.

Exactly, these cars are gonna be collectors' items, not actually driven. In 20 years, I'd be shocked to see one above 3k miles

 

[Dragster]

Anyone can go to the GM dealer and buy a ZR1 though. You didn't have to make the list of approved YouTube celebrities.

Yeah, there's a HUGE difference between the ZR1 and the GTD in this regard. Everyone that can afford a ZR1 and wants one will eventually get one. That is absolutely NOT going to be the case with the GTD.

 

[Dragster]

No you can’t lol, maybe now you can go buy a leftover c7 ZR1 5 years later for 200K.

The high volume Corvette dealers in this country all sell at MSRP. You can get on a list today and get a ZR1, if you are so inclined. You'll have to wait, but you'll get a car. They're not going to be a limited production car in the sense that they will cap production below demand.

 

[JediMindTrix]

I'm not going to say you'll NEVER see one at a track, but I tend to side with young at heart on this one. I don't think many will see the track simply because of how limited the car is. It's the same reason you may see an F8 at the track, but not an F50. The risk is simply too high and the cost and difficulty in replacing the car isn't worth it. Track insurance typically has a cap as well, if your regular insuance doesn't cover tracking. While the GTD may start out as a 325K car, I'm willing to bet that it will be worth signficantly more two years later when we see them start to hit auctions, and there are going to be a lot of owners that aren't going to risk that.

This is a fair point to emphasize (to @young at heart 's original point)

 

[JediMindTrix]

So let’s nail this down some… I think the ZR1 is going to be 300K plus (msrp is not part of the discussion unless you’re jay leno or Johnny GM)

And it won’t be within 10 seconds of the GTD.
Further proving the BARGAIN… that the GTD is.

If they say they’re targeting sub 7, I think they’re going for 6:30s #1

I feel like this comment will age well... totally agree.

 

[9secondko]

I don’t think the ZR1 is what some of you all are thinking.
The GTD will be significantly quicker, and the ZR1 will be significantly MORE expensive.

People are way offsides on this one.

you’re going to be surprised.
Rumblings of arpund 6:40 on the ring and sub 200k.

that thing is no joke. GM really mastered the mid-engine platform. As the base c8 far outperformed its specs, so will the zr1. Midengine by itself gives it a leg up in both acceleration AND handling. Meanwhile, the Gtd is all about offsetting inherent disadvantages by putting the transaxle in the back, etc. but the supercharger is heavy on the nose.

ford had to go exotic to compete since the midengine layout is a major advantage from the outset. And then GM went exotic with the powertrain. And sheesh. That’s an impressive powertrain - on an already masterful handler with impossible aero profile. Then they went and powered up the suspension too. It’s a much larger threat than some want to admit.
The GTD better have some unspoken tricks up its sleeves.

 

[Upacurb]

Prediction time

the c8 ZR1 will force down the prices of the C7 ZR1

The C8 ZR1 will go for well over sticker initially but when GM produces 15k of them they will come down to sticker over time

I think the C7 has remained high because it doesn’t have a direct replacement and was limited quantity due to demand being different at the time

I also believe limited production numbers on the GTD will keep prices high …much like Ford GT prices …

The Porsche GT3 is sought after not because of high horsepower numbers but because it is a drivers car… jury is still out on whether either will make that same emotional connection…

 

[Dragster]

Power output of the GTD is pretty much right in line with what everyone should have expected, given the engine configuration. What I am interested in is the weight. How much of the underpinnings are actually shared with the S650? The GTD doesn't appear to be built around a carbon monocoque or they would've likely told everyone about it by now. I assume the structure will be all aluminum with carbon body panels, but I guess we'll see.

 

[Q6543]

I’m expecting it to be 5-600lbs lighter than the ZR1.

GTD somewhere around 32-3300 ish… ZR1 closer to 38-3900 ish.
Hell, boschma just got his S650 down to 3150 without anything exotic and full IRS.

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