Ford promises to build manual V8 Mustangs until they're illegal

[9secondko]

You're asking for a bundle of contradictions. If you make a naturally-aspirated V8 with tiny cylinders, you're losing more of your energy to cooling and it's inherently less efficient due to the way the flame front propagates versus an undersquare engine. You have to rev to get the horsepower, and you won't have low-end torque as you have neither displacement nor boost.

I'd argue for focusing on making the V8 the enthusiast engine, make the manual as crispy as you can deliver it, and let it be the car for the people who want smiles-per-gallon.

some people don’t understand physics.
At certain displacement rates, a 4 cylinder engine is more powerful and efficient than an 8. A little bigger and 6 is the magic number. A bit more and 8 does the job best. It’s all about maximum total combustion without burning the house down.
Ford once offered a small 3.4 Yamaha v8 engine for the Taurus SHO. it sucked. They replaced it in a year with a 6. There is a reason v8 engines are usually at the very least 4.0 liters. And those usually have some FI help. Around 5 liters and larger, you get the big boy gains.

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[DeluxeStang]

You know what I'd really like to see? Ford making a smaller naturally aspirated V8 that puts out 240-360 HP (so it doesn't cannibalize from the Coyote's sales), can fit in a smaller car (think Cayman/Boxster to the 911), has good throttle response at low RPMs for daily driving at minimum, and gets as good mileage as the current 2.3L I-4 EcoBoost.

That said I can't imagine Ford taking that big of a risk, and I imagine hitting those two latter points would take a lot of research and development time to accomplish, if they even could do so in the first place.

Better yet, a foxbody inspired 80s retro design based on c2 with the 2.0 and 2.3 Ecoboost. Put big turbo graphics on it like a lot of sporty 80s cars have.

 

[Neggytive]

what??

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Starting January 1, 2025 Massachusetts is banning the sale of brand new diesel trucks and only allowing the sale of electric trucks. This is because Massachusetts adopted the CARB Low NOx Omnibus rule to address emissions from diesel trucks.

 

[Zig]

Starting January 1, 2025 Massachusetts is banning the sale of brand new diesel trucks and only allowing the sale of electric trucks. This is because Massachusetts adopted the CARB Low NOx Omnibus rule to address emissions from diesel trucks.

Massachuetts is not California, carb is unenforceable, imo.it would be marb if it was.

california is part of the united states, majority constitutional carry so california required to comply as well?

 

[R3tro GT]

You people who have optioned for a 3 pedal GT are already paying a tax of $1000 dollars because your car missed the fuel mileage mandates by something like 1 MPG

Job 2 cars, with Start & Stop, no longer have the $1000 gas guzzler tax

 

[Zig]

Job 2 cars, with Start & Stop, no longer have the $1000 gas guzzler tax

$1000 option/button

 

[Zig]

Starting January 1, 2025 Massachusetts is banning the sale of brand new diesel trucks and only allowing the sale of electric trucks. This is because Massachusetts adopted the CARB Low NOx Omnibus rule to address emissions from diesel trucks.

‘Real ID’ was a requirement still is but delayed again as well?

 

[goodlettjr]

Starting January 1, 2025 Massachusetts is banning the sale of brand new diesel trucks and only allowing the sale of electric trucks. This is because Massachusetts adopted the CARB Low NOx Omnibus rule to address emissions from diesel trucks.

I’m not familiar with MA law, but Im pretty sure what you are referring to is like the CA mandate they just pushed back. That is for class 6,7, and 8 trucks. Not F550s and down (class 5 and down)

 

[Snakebyte]

Here's the document from MA on the requirements...

View attachment lev-diesel.pdf

 

[Zig]

Here's the document from MA on the requirements...

View attachment lev-diesel.pdf

Percentage of ‘class’ must be zev (credit’s permit sales?) but since no zev’s made for class?

 

[kagemusha2662]

lot of people talking about the CA law, but forget when they implemented the law that 10% of cars must be EV and that wasn't feasible, they walked it back. I predict similar thing will happen with their new 2035 mandate. It'll just get extended, and I think auto manufacturers know this as well hence the move away from EVs into more ICE and more hybrid development (which should have been the first step instead of EVs)

 

[Rodzilla]

It is so absurd that "making ICE illegal" is even a possibility. So much government overreach is tolerated now. F$%^ the EPA.

Yup,,,too vote for any gov that would allow that is pure craziness

 

[CPT_RSV]

Jesus drove a Honda, he was just humble so he didn't brag about it: "For I did not speak of my own accord" (John 12:49). He still bummed rides though: "I came not of my own accord, but he sent me" (John 8:42)

 

[JasonX]

Thanks for the heads-up. I know next to nothing about engine design despite having a computer game that focuses a lot on that and car design in general.

Automation? Fun as heck to blow stuff up lol.

 

[JasonX]

Jesus drove a Honda, he was just humble so he didn't brag about it: "For I did not speak of my own accord" (John 12:49). He still bummed rides though: "I came not of my own accord, but he sent me" (John 8:42)

So that's why they nailed him to the cross......

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