Wheel hop question

[Ken H.]

Is wheel hop only in manuals?
I have 2024 DH auto. I’ve not experienced wheel hop with it (yet). Only floored it from dead stop once to check 0-60 time. Wheel spin but no wheel hop. Only experienced it once in many years of hot rodding in a 1969 Chevelle SS396 manual.
I’m considering the Steeda rear suspension parts but not convinced I need them for wheel hop. Would maybe get some improved handling.

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[Steve@Lethal]

The Stop the Hop kit will shine more with actual hard driving or RPM launches but it also helps with the overall feel of the car. It's still a unibody and has some flex to it. The start kit which comes with the braces IMO are one of the most recommended things. That location is where they have deflection.

If I can help get it going, let me know!
https://www.lethalperformance.com/steeda-stop-the-hop-starter-kit-2015-2026-mustang-gt.html

I would start with this kit and go from there.

 

[Ken H.]

Thanks for the info. I appreciate your quick response.
Questions remain:
1. Do automatics get wheel hop?
2. Or, is it a function of dumping the clutch at increased rpm or just the suspension play/flex regardless of transmission?
3. And, can you get it accelerating out of a turn with hard acceleration?
Did the Ford Performance DH school in a manual. Drove as hard as I could. Never had wheel hop.
I don’t track my car. Just spirited driving on country back roads.
I know it can occur with heavy braking. I’ve seen it on NASCAR many times. Probably not as likely on street cars with modern anti-lock brakes.

 

[Sofa King]

Yes, you need them... wheel hop leads to wheelspin... one "hop" breaks traction and then the spin continues.

But they do so much more as well!

 

[smurfslayer]

Is wheel hop only in manuals?
I have 2024 DH auto. I’ve not experienced wheel hop with it (yet). Only floored it from dead stop once to check 0-60 time. Wheel spin but no wheel hop. Only experienced it once in many years of hot rodding in a 1969 Chevelle SS396 manual.
I’m considering the Steeda rear suspension parts but not convinced I need them for wheel hop. Would maybe get some improved handling.

The electronics on the '24+ Mustang GT w/ HP and Dark Horse w/ HP are next level good. The suspension is also quite a step up from traditional solid axle. There's nowhere near the potential for wheel hop, axle wrap and induced spin as a result.

It's there, but Ford has reduced the impact so much as to make it transparent to the casual driver. It's nowhere near as violent as the solid axle.

As to what you'd get out of the stop the hop kit, that's going to depend a lot on how you drive the car and its use case. If you're commuting and showing off on the weekends, probably not a lot of gain. If you're occasionally taking off really hard, drag racing, auto crossing or tracking the car, yes you'll get some more composure, grip, traction and feel.

 

[Sf22giants]

My auto DH does not wheel hop. I’m running a whipple stage 2. It’ll blow the tires off, yes, but it absolutely does not wheel hop.

I’ve wheel hopped older manual mustangs more times than I can count. Any manual mustang I’ve ever driven needed aftermarket suspension upgrades in some form, for sure.

 

[Ken H.]

The electronics on the '24+ Mustang GT w/ HP and Dark Horse w/ HP are next level good. The suspension is also quite a step up from traditional solid axle. There's nowhere near the potential for wheel hop, axle wrap and induced spin as a result.

It's there, but Ford has reduced the impact so much as to make it transparent to the casual driver. It's nowhere near as violent as the solid axle.

As to what you'd get out of the stop the hop kit, that's going to depend a lot on how you drive the car and its use case. If you're commuting and showing off on the weekends, probably not a lot of gain. If you're occasionally taking off really hard, drag racing, auto crossing or tracking the car, yes you'll get some more composure, grip, traction and feel.

Good info. Really helpful. That’s what I have experienced but didn’t know the details that you provided. Thanks

 

[Ken H.]

My auto DH does not wheel hop. I’m running a whipple stage 2. It’ll blow the tires off, yes, but it absolutely does not wheel hop.

I’ve wheel hopped older manual mustangs more times than I can count. Any manual mustang I’ve ever driven needed aftermarket suspension upgrades in some form, for sure.

Also, really good real life info. Good to know. Thanks.

 

[Ewags81]

i agree with everything @smurfslayer wrote. manual dh non hp. i love launch control. i can report wheel hop, mostly on unprepped, grainy, choppy asphalt (thinking this also unsettles mag ride system at launch). much less on better surfaces. that said, i'm sure it's there even on a good launch but very hard to pick up due to mag ride and mentioned suspension improvements. i can see where wheel hop would be minimized by the automatic's smoother power transfer at take-off rpm and lack of launch control. one day i'll add the steeda bars... but weight...

 

[Old School1]

The Stop the Hop kit will shine more with actual hard driving or RPM launches but it also helps with the overall feel of the car. It's still a unibody and has some flex to it. The start kit which comes with the braces IMO are one of the most recommended things. That location is where they have deflection.

If I can help get it going, let me know!
https://www.lethalperformance.com/steeda-stop-the-hop-starter-kit-2015-2026-mustang-gt.html

I would start with this kit and go from there.

Follow up question, I have a convertible and realize that the ragtops already have additional bracing due to being a convertible. Would the Stop Hop Kit replace this bracing or add to it? Thanks in advance.

 

[smurfslayer]

i agree with everything @smurfslayer wrote. manual dh non hp. i love launch control. i can report wheel hop, mostly on unprepped, grainy, choppy asphalt (thinking this also unsettles mag ride system at launch). much less on better surfaces. that said, i'm sure it's there even on a good launch but very hard to pick up due to mag ride and mentioned suspension improvements. i can see where wheel hop would be minimized by the automatic's smoother power transfer at take-off rpm and lack of launch control. one day i'll add the steeda bars... but weight...

I can report that taking off in the A10 on those same surfaces that give the M6 trouble, are also trouble for the A10. If you haven't tried to manually shift the A10 from a launch, 1st gear is gone FAST. Perfect surface take offs aren't too bad, but where the surface is inconsistent, and imperfect it can make quick take offs very challenging. I suspect the M6 has it a little worse in this regard.

It sure beats trying to launch an old Fox body though.

 

[SS2 GOTZ]

I have a 2024 GT Premium with Performance Pack. I noticed wheel hop from day 1 and I don't drive it that hard. The most noticable is accelerating while turning as when pulling out of a lot or driveway into traffic. I had the Steeda kit installed (minus the braces as this is a vert) and noticed immediate improvement. I added the progressive springs (Magna ride version) vertical links, competition sway bars, adjustable toe links and adjustable camber plates. The handling went from pretty good to amazing! Having said all that, in cooler temperatures, traction is still reduced and you can still get some wheel hop on spirited acceleration, but a VERY clear improvement with the Steeda parts! All this is on the OEM Pzero tires.

 

[tj@steeda]

I have a 2024 GT Premium with Performance Pack. I noticed wheel hop from day 1 and I don't drive it that hard. The most noticable is accelerating while turning as when pulling out of a lot or driveway into traffic. I had the Steeda kit installed (minus the braces as this is a vert) and noticed immediate improvement. I added the progressive springs (Magna ride version) vertical links, competition sway bars, adjustable toe links and adjustable camber plates. The handling went from pretty good to amazing! Having said all that, in cooler temperatures, traction is still reduced and you can still get some wheel hop on spirited acceleration, but a VERY clear improvement with the Steeda parts! All this is on the OEM Pzero tires.

Love to hear it - appreciate the feedback!!

 

[Painless89t]

The Steeda Stop the Hop Kits were a significant upgrade to my non-PP 25 GT. I went with the Ultimate version along w/ their sway bar, end links, G-trac brace, Pro-action coilovers, and adjustable rear ride height system.

Wow. The car is extremely precise in handling and steering. Prior to the install I felt that 80 mph was the maximum speed that the suspension could handle safely. The car felt "floaty" and unpredictable— like a couch.

Also, the customer service I received was second to none. Couldn't recommend them enough.

 

[tj@steeda]

The Steeda Stop the Hop Kits were a significant upgrade to my non-PP 25 GT. I went with the Ultimate version along w/ their sway bar, end links, G-trac brace, Pro-action coilovers, and adjustable rear ride height system.

Wow. The car is extremely precise in handling and steering. Prior to the install I felt that 80 mph was the maximum speed that the suspension could handle safely. The car felt "floaty" and unpredictable— like a couch.

Also, the customer service I received was second to none. Couldn't recommend them enough.

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