Why's Ford not allowing people to tune the S650 Mustang?

[GrabThatBlue]

This must be the same guy as the one from last week who got banned. He was responding with AI messages the whole time and could not even speak for himself. His name was Icebrownz or something similar.

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[Zig]

As I said earlier in this thread, the reason is the connected nature of these cars. Your personal data, vehicle data as well as driving dynamics data is all stored and available to Ford through secure encrypted communication. if they allow any module to be accessed and written to, they are opening them up to any type of man-in-the-middle attack on your data. And Data breaches these days are about the worst security breach you can manage. The aftermath for a company could cause catastrophic monetary damage.

This isnt about warranty or emissions. Its about your data being protected and Ford's ability to do so. Thats it. Sorry wish it was more interesting, but its not.

The data privacy argument goes out the window when the owner also carries a personal tracking device (mobile phone)

 

[Zig]

you have no idea what it even is. There are thousands of pages of ford coyote service manuals, HP tuners calibration manuals, SCT, COBB, industry ford tuning manuals, FORSCAN guides and asbuilt data, FDRS ford tech white papers. I’m talking like 20,000+ pages of information as well as web accessible ford tuning data it’s been trained on. Hundreds of hours of work has been put in. Forget about the hardware costs. There isn’t a person or group of persons on this or any other planet with the breadth of knowledge this AI has in these specific topics.
So please spare me your opinions. Until you understand the scope of what I have here, all you have is a shitty opinion about AI from what you’ve heard on Facebook or some other social media platform.
This isn’t your kids AI doing their math homework. This is how real number crunching and complex problems are handled in the actual real world.

The ai is only as good as the question. Manipulation of results can be inquiry based.

 

[Gregs24]

The data privacy argument goes out the window when the owner also carries a personal tracking device (mobile phone)

Rubbish.

 

[Zig]

Rubbish.

Is it the fingerprint or the self facing camera that verifies the driver to the data or is it ‘anonymized’

 

[BlkJack]

So - if I purchase and have installed (by an approved certified tech) a Ford Performance “Whipple” SC, my cats will melt and headers will explode …?

BTW - what’s the difference between a Whipple, Whipple and a Ford Performance Whipple …? As far as I have been told NOTHING

 

[robvas]

So - if I purchase and have installed (by an approved certified tech) a Ford Performance “Whipple” SC, my cats will melt

Likely.

BTW - what’s the difference between a Whipple, Whipple and a Ford Performance Whipple …? As far as I have been told NOTHING

The lid.

Also include VMP and Lethal in that list.

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default/files/aftermarket/devices/eo/d-231-119.pdf

 

[LevittownFordParts]

Hey @LevittownFordParts does this mean a tune is imminent?

I still don't see M-9063-M50D show up as an available part yet, but the device to load the tune is now available?

https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-12655-f.html

Hi,

FP cannot confirm if one will be available or not.

Sorry,
- Benny

 

[Q6543]

So - if I purchase and have installed (by an approved certified tech) a Ford Performance “Whipple” SC, my cats will melt

yes, highly likely outcome, I’d get cats off immediately and ideally before it sees boost

 

[BlkJack]

What Cats are recommended w/o any further future problems - Thanks

 

[Paul's stable]

As long as you don't want E85, or to be able to tune the trans, or....

I have a Tremec 6 spd not sure how much tuning you can do to that?

 

[Paul's stable]

But they've always sold Ford tunes and previous generations were not locked.

You know it's funny this big multi billion business has the nerve to change things to make money for its shareholders. When you are at the next shareholders meeting you should bring that up.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

 

[8LAKK8UNSHINE]

That's the record holder

they're in the 8's now

how fast is SPE's car?

Lethal's car is the slowest one (it's a manual so of course it is)

The whole point of this thread is tuning for the S650. Yes, there is a supercharged car in the high 8s now. We've known about Whipple, Roush, and now Pro Charger. Now we see a guy claiming that his TT 2024 is making 1000 + on the dyno and that kits are coming soon. That means something differnt than a blower and should be faster and quicker.

I just got my stage 2 Whipple so it doesn't matter much to me and my car is also a MT so I'll be stuck in the low 10s. I don't know how to drive an automatic so I'm good with that. BUT, there is something new happening worthwhile with S650 TT options brewing.

 

[Zig]

I don't know how to drive an automatic so I'm good with that.

^ best line of the day, lol, hadn’t heard that in forever.

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