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After buying my Dark Horse Premium, without the Handling Pack, I have realized the stock rides heights are certainly difference between Non Handling Pack and Handing Pack Dark Horses. I'm not taking about ground clearances. The Handling Pack truely sets the Dark Horse lower, which is evident in the wheel set-ups.
I had no real functional use for the handling pack, but would have liked a little lower car. I dropped the ball by not doing more homework on this up front.
I get a good kick out of it why so many people worry about ride hight or super wide low sidewall tires…If you do track days yes but driving on regular roads you loose comfort , scrape stuff and deal with tramlining…All for a little looks…Sometimes less is more !
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I get a good kick out of it why so many people worry about ride hight or super wide low sidewall tires…If you do track days yes but driving on regular roads you loose comfort , scrape stuff and deal with tramlining…All for a little looks…Sometimes less is more !
Personally, I prefer to have Steeda and 20" 275x35 / 295x35. The comfort is very good with more precise and less heavy steering. I drove with the original wheels just before selling my GT, the comfort gain is minimal.
 

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I get a good kick out of it why so many people worry about ride hight or super wide low sidewall tires…If you do track days yes but driving on regular roads you loose comfort , scrape stuff and deal with tramlining…All for a little looks…Sometimes less is more !
It only took the better part of 151 messages for you to post something I agree with ... :crackup:
 

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I get a good kick out of it why so many people worry about ride hight or super wide low sidewall tires…If you do track days yes but driving on regular roads you loose comfort , scrape stuff and deal with tramlining…All for a little looks…Sometimes less is more ! Sponsored
'cause that's what gearheads do since, oh, I don't know...forever.
 
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I saw somewhere the ford M5300W spring will fit the DH and I think it lowers it .25 on each corner? Anyone know for sure?
 

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Non-HP front tires are 255/40-19, diameter is 27.03", radius 13.52".
HP front 305/30-19, diameter 26.20", radius 13.10".
So the HP front has 0.40" less ground clearance because of the tires but has a 0.40" larger wheel gap to the fender, some of which is masked by the fender lips.

Non-HP rear 275/40-19, diameter 27.66", radius 13.83".
HP rear 315/30-19, diameter 26.44", radius 13.22".
So the HP rear has 0.61" less ground clearance than the non-HP but has a 0.61" larger fender gap.
Great information! When I replace my HP tires I had planned to go with 325 on the rear and looks like 305 fronts shoulf fit. I have 285/35 x 20 on my S550 that is lowered and to be honest, I like the stance of my S550 more than my Dark Horse.. Thanks!
 

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After buying my Dark Horse Premium, without the Handling Pack, I have realized the stock rides heights are certainly difference between Non Handling Pack and Handing Pack Dark Horses. I'm not taking about ground clearances. The Handling Pack truely sets the Dark Horse lower, which is evident in the wheel set-ups.
I had no real functional use for the handling pack, but would have liked a little lower car. I dropped the ball by not doing more homework on this up front.
But dude... I scrape EVERYWHERE if I'm not careful, car washes eith the railing that pulls you through, screeches along the aero plating underneath and rocks/gravel collects in my rear aero plating.. there are downsides either way!
 

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But dude... I scrape EVERYWHERE if I'm not careful, car washes eith the railing that pulls you through, screeches along the aero plating underneath and rocks/gravel collects in my rear aero plating.. there are downsides either way!
Ouch... NOOO, don't tell me you take a Darkhorse through one of those car washes... I mean it... don't tell me 'cause I may be sick.
 

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Ouch... NOOO, don't tell me you take a Darkhorse through one of those car washes... I mean it... don't tell me 'cause I may be sick.
Well once I learned how to adjust my suspension from the strut towers it wasn't so bad, the car wash in our town has none of dangerous brushes and things that can destroy your paint job, mainly water pressure and soap and these giant soft sponges that flop on to the car. But yes I do...

I feel a hard hardcore reprimand coming on 😶🌫
 

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Well once I learned how to adjust my suspension from the strut towers it wasn't so bad, the car wash in our town has none of dangerous brushes and things that can destroy your paint job, mainly water pressure and soap and these giant soft sponges that flop on to the car. But yes I do...

I feel a hard hardcore reprimand coming on 😶🌫
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She's purdy. It's a gamble to use any car wash that touches your car, no matter how soft the big giant soft sponges that flop on your car are. It's an automated process that isn't aware when it picks up something harder than your clear coat from the last car through (rock, sand, grains of some sort in bird droppings) and now it is dragging that all over your car while you're "washed gently". Yikes! I hope it never gets ya!
 

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She's purdy. It's a gamble to use any car wash that touches your car, no matter how soft the big giant soft sponges that flop on your car are. It's an automated process that isn't aware when it picks up something harder than your clear coat from the last car through (rock, sand, grains of some sort in bird droppings) and now it is dragging that all over your car while you're "washed gently". Yikes! I hope it never gets ya!
I hear you completely! I've gotta stop being lazy about it, honestly I'd be better at self washing if our towns water wasn't so 'hard' and I wasn't so ADHD about it, I bounce around too much and end up taking an hour just to get the outside lol. Thank you for the advice.
I got an over the air update tonight and immediately got a check engine light that won't go off. App/diagnostic check says engine is Perfectly Healthy though... crazy!?
 

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I saw somewhere the ford M5300W spring will fit the DH and I think it lowers it .25 on each corner? Anyone know for sure?
I installed M-5300-W springs on my non-HP DH and it lowered the car 20 mm (.8") front and rear. Sits PERFECT!
Added ARP 3" extended studs and 10 mm spacers on rear and 12 mm spacers up front to get the tires flush with fender @ -1.6° camber. Rides like a dream and handles like it's on rails.
 

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I installed M-5300-W springs on my non-HP DH and it lowered the car 20 mm (.8") front and rear. Sits PERFECT!
Added ARP 3" extended studs and 10 mm spacers on rear and 12 mm spacers up front to get the tires flush with fender @ -1.6° camber. Rides like a dream and handles like it's on rails.
Nice! I mean .75 not .25 so it looks like it’s spot on. Post pics, I’d like to see it.
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