Change lane keep to lane centering?

[ZXMustang]

Lol, excuse after excuse.

I'm pretty sure @DT-GT is from the states and also his Mustang. And as you have read, he got it too.

lol are you retired or something? Got nothing better to do? Maybe you can go out and take a video, show us your autonomous driving Mustang. 1 of 1

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[Cipis]

Well my drives it self too. Just from times to times touch steering, otherwise actually does every steer just perfectly centered, no bouncing. ;)

 

[GrabThatBlue]

lol are you retired or something? Got nothing better to do? Maybe you can go out and take a video, show us your autonomous driving Mustang. 1 of 1

First you said I have no lane centering and that if you have lane centering you will see the blue brackets on the side.

I showed you I have lane centering and I showed you the blue brackets.

And now you talk about autonomous driving? Really?

You litterally said I have no lane centering and now you want to save your face by talking about autonomous driving?

Is your ego that high that you can't even admit you were wrong? The more you try to safe your face the more you look like a fool. What's wrong with being wrong?

Ironically you complained about a lot of misinformation on this forum and now you are one of the people you complained about. LOL!!

 

[Cipis]

I feel this topic should be consider as case closed. 🫢

 

[rugedraw]

I feel this topic should be consider as case closed. 🫢

Not really, because the OP's question has not been addressed. I don't own one of these cars, but from reading through the thread, it seems like the lane centering/keeping functions differ between the manual and automatic transmission vehicles. If that is the case, then it is a matter of configuration and you should be able to enable lane centering on vehicles that do not have it using FORScan.

So, if we're done bickering and want to try to find a true solution, let's explore this.

This is the first line of the IPMA config for a 2025 GT Premium manual:

This is the first line of config for a 2025 GT Premium Auto:

They both show an E in the second bit of the first block, which means both vehicles have lane keep alert, lane keep aid and lane centering with assist enabled in the IPMA:

Where they differ is in the 3rd and 4th bits of the first block. The manual shows a 4 in the 3rd bit which means Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control is off and the auto shows a 5 which means it is enbaled. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

The forth bit shows a 0 for the manual so TJA is off and an 8 on the auto so TJA is on. TJA is Traffic Jam Assist which also has nothing to do with lane centeting/keeping.

Now let's explore the PSCM. The manual Mustang shows this:

The auto Stang shows this:

This means both the manual and auto have Lane Keep Aid enabled, but only the auto has Lane Centering Asssit enabled:

In the IPC, the manual shows this:

The auto shows this:

The first bit has to do with with the gear select which is irrelavant. The important thing here is the third bit which has to do with the lane assist animations in the IPC is an A in both cars, which means the IPC is set up for both vehicles the same way.

Also, lane centering needs to be enabled here in the APIM:

So, if I wanted to try and enable this, I would do the following:

PSCM:

730-02-02

xxxx xxFF xxxx

This SHOULD enable lane centering assist in the PSCM on manual Mustangs. Only one way to find out.

 

[D/\rK•650]

Thank you rugedraw. Maybe your post will bring some illumination Im not even sure what ZXMustang is saying anymore? Its all good though
This thread has worn itself out as some have said.

 

[ZXMustang]

First you said I have no lane centering and that if you have lane centering you will see the blue brackets on the side.

I showed you I have lane centering and I showed you the blue brackets.

And now you talk about autonomous driving? Really?

You litterally said I have no lane centering and now you want to save your face by talking about autonomous driving?

Is your ego that high that you can't even admit you were wrong? The more you try to safe your face the more you look like a fool. What's wrong with being wrong?

Ironically you complained about a lot of misinformation on this forum and now you are one of the people you complained about. LOL!!

Well I am man enough to say when Im wrong, and on this one you are right and I was wrong.

I dug into the menus on mine and sure enough the fucking option was disabled and it was inside the adaptive cruise menu, not under the lane keep menu.

So yes you are correct. I am completely wrong, and to be honest I was both mad but happy that I do actually have this option on my mustang.

So thank you for opening my eyes to this, I truly would have never found it nor really looked. I had thought this was only part of the bluecruise functionality.

And to be completely clear, I was wrong. Yours, mine and ours all have lane centering - and not to put foot farther in mouth, but I assume its only on cars with adaptive cruise? I wont even put a stamp on that statement. So there you have it, I apologize @GrabThatBlue.

 

[Yamazuki]

Not really, because the OP's question has not been addressed. I don't own one of these cars, but from reading through the thread, it seems like the lane centering/keeping functions differ between the manual and automatic transmission vehicles. If that is the case, then it is a matter of configuration and you should be able to enable lane centering on vehicles that do not have it using FORScan.

So, if we're done bickering and want to try to find a true solution, let's explore this.

This is the first line of the IPMA config for a 2025 GT Premium manual:

This is the first line of config for a 2025 GT Premium Auto:

They both show an E in the second bit of the first block, which means both vehicles have lane keep alert, lane keep aid and lane centering with assist enabled in the IPMA:

Where they differ is in the 3rd and 4th bits of the first block. The manual shows a 4 in the 3rd bit which means Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control is off and the auto shows a 5 which means it is enbaled. This has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

The forth bit shows a 0 for the manual so TJA is off and an 8 on the auto so TJA is on. TJA is Traffic Jam Assist which also has nothing to do with lane centeting/keeping.

Now let's explore the PSCM. The manual Mustang shows this:

The auto Stang shows this:

This means both the manual and auto have Lane Keep Aid enabled, but only the auto has Lane Centering Asssit enabled:

In the IPC, the manual shows this:

The auto shows this:

The first bit has to do with with the gear select which is irrelavant. The important thing here is the third bit which has to do with the lane assist animations in the IPC is an A in both cars, which means the IPC is set up for both vehicles the same way.

So, if I wanted to try and enable this, I would do the following:

PSCM:

730-02-02

xxxx xxFF xxxx

This SHOULD enable lane centering assist in the PSCM on manual Mustangs. Only one way to find out.

Definitely going to be testing this out!

 

[rugedraw]

Definitely going to be testing this out!

Lmk if you notice any difference in the behavior. More changes may be needed if this alone doesn't work, but it was the first thing that stood out to me that made sense.

 

[Yamazuki]

Lmk if you notice any difference in the behavior. More changes may be needed if this alone doesn't work, but it was the first thing that stood out to me that made sense.

The change at 730-02-02 alone was not enough to turn lane centering assist on. I still have the ping pong effect going on.

A quick search through the spreadsheet is showing quite a few addresses, across multiple modules, pertaining to lane assist, lane centering, etc. so it looks like its going to be a bit more involved.

Since my car is a Dark Horse, and I dont really have anything to compare it to, would it be possible to get a copy of the asbuilt data for the auto and manual transmission cars you were looking at? I'm pigheaded enough that I can see myself wasting a lot of time trying to figure this out; especially since I know just enough about this shit to be dangerous.

 

[rugedraw]

The change at 730-02-02 alone was not enough to turn lane centering assist on. I still have the ping pong effect going on.

A quick search through the spreadsheet is showing quite a few addresses, across multiple modules, pertaining to lane assist, lane centering, etc. so it looks like its going to be a bit more involved.

Since my car is a Dark Horse, and I dont really have anything to compare it to, would it be possible to get a copy of the asbuilt data for the auto and manual transmission cars you were looking at? I'm pigheaded enough that I can see myself wasting a lot of time trying to figure this out; especially since I know just enough about this shit to be dangerous.

Oh, not sure at this point. I just looked up 2025 Mustangs for sale on cars.com and found a V8 Premium with an auto and another with a manual to compare these few keys areas that I know have to do with LCA. You are right.....there could be more to it than what I looked into.

 

[jboogie1289]

I did try out the Adaptive Cruise option being that I’ve had the GT for 2+ years and I was quite impressed by it‘s performance!! I’ll probably never use it again as I prefer to keep my hands on the wheel and throttle.

Lol

 

[Yamazuki]

Oh, not sure at this point. I just looked up 2025 Mustangs for sale on cars.com and found a V8 Premium with an auto and another with a manual to compare these few keys areas that I know have to do with LCA. You are right.....there could be more to it than what I looked into.

Oh okay. I'll have to do the same then so I can do some comparisons to try and get this working.

 

[Yamazuki]

I didn't get too far into this today, but I'm beginning to think there are a couple of different features involved with making lane centering work on the manual transmission cars.

Based on @rugedraw's earlier post and asbuilt data I pulled for a DH Premium with the A10, both cars have 'Intelligent Adaptive Cruise Control' and 'Traffic Jam Assist' features enabled. Mine with a manual transmission does not; although I do have 'Adaptive Cruise Control'. Enabling/disabling these features often seems to be grouped with something related to lane assist.

Adding to my assumption is an earlier post in this thread by @DT-GT outlining what is required to activate lane centering, which states that 'Adaptive cruise control with lane centering' must be turned on, as well as 'stop and go'. I could be wrong, but stop and go sounds a lot like an user friendly term for traffic jam assist.

At this point, I'm still not sure what the difference between 'Adaptive' and 'Intelligent Adaptive' cruise control is. Stop and go probably isn't going to work very well with a manual transmission (if it does anything close to what it sounds like), and that is if it can even be activated on a manual transmission vehicle. In the past we've seen issues where certain features could not be enabled due to the car having the wrong country code, so it's possible the same goes for transmission codes as well.

This would be a nice feature to have for long trips and whatnot, but the rabbit hole associated with it could prove to be a lot deeper than expected!

 

[jboogie1289]

I have a 24 Model that doesn’t have the Auto Start/Stop (not sure what Traffic Jam Assist is) option so can not say if that matters with the whole topic but again, it is a pretty neat feature that I didn’t know I had access to.

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