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Repost? or did I see this somewhere else?
 

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as usual, the comments are filled with Tesla fanboys grasping onto any straws they can to invalidate the whole thing, like saying that Edmunds was actively sabotaging the race by putting the Tesla into track mode. here's hoping their copium reserves stay strong even through this hardship
 


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Nobody in actual car culture cares about the washing machines on wheels.
Agreed, maybe they buy them as a daily to goto work or something but apart from that, like Im not giving up the stang to own a Tesla, no way no how is that happening.
 

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Close race, lots of interesting comments...


I thought this was a really good test. It showed what I have been talking about with a buddy that owns a Tesla.

Like yes, they have good performance to about 120ish, but then it falls off pretty bad. But if you take into account the stang can brake much later, get into turns harder, and get on it much sooner, there is no way a Tesla will out brake and turn a mustang (dollar for dollar matched, ie. if you spend 100k on a tesla, you get 100k for the mustang) the stang will come out on top.

What's neat about Tesla is FSD, but in reality FSD could be on any car. Like ford and toyota are doing.
 

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I thought this was a really good test. It showed what I have been talking about with a buddy that owns a Tesla.

Like yes, they have good performance to about 120ish, but then it falls off pretty bad. But if you take into account the stang can brake much later, get into turns harder, and get on it much sooner, there is no way a Tesla will out brake and turn a mustang (dollar for dollar matched, ie. if you spend 100k on a tesla, you get 100k for the mustang) the stang will come out on top.

What's neat about Tesla is FSD, but in reality FSD could be on any car. Like ford and toyota are doing.

Well, keep in mind that this Mustang has a Whipple blower installed.
 

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The Tesla just needs a tune. Why people buy them is beyond me.
 

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They sold 1.6 million cars last year so I'm not sure that's accurate.
I read somewhere in the last three days or so that they were crying about sales. They have to cover their fixed and variable costs so "sales" is always a relative number. I'm not going to help them out.
 

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I read somewhere in the last three days or so that they were crying about sales. They have to cover their fixed and variable costs so "sales" is always a relative number. I'm not going to help them out.
total Tesla sales were down 8.6% in 2025 compared to 2024, second year of negative sales growth. Ford, GM, Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai all had positive growth numbers in 2025
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