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Looks menacing! However, factory-offered black lugs would be REALLY nice...

I'm comparing what's given to me...nothing more. Would it be better if I compare something within 2 years time? Say, the 2018 Mustang PP2 that also beat the SS1LE... What about R&T picking the GT350R as their Performance car of the year for 2016? Hell, let's have even more fun. Check out...

For what it's worth: 1st look 4th Gen 5.0 Engine bay 2024 Dark Horse Mustang & More! - YouTube Some more in depth looks at the interior and engine bay.

Whenever I hear that, it always makes me think of Fallout 3, LOL.

Tires do matter, but we're dealing with OEM vehicles and parts/specs here...theres no point in going down the rabbit hole of "what-if's" for content on a vehicle, IMHO. "Run what you brung". I do agree that some people may find a certain vehicle better or worse...but that comes down to their...

Don't even try man. Everything GM is better than anything Ford, remember? The Mach 1 HP beating both the SS1LE and CT4-V BW at VIR - and only being a little over a second behind the ZL1...nah, doesn't count. The new DH...the one with more power, more brakes and presumably better tuning of...

I'm scared. Someone hold me.

I'm not even going to ask how you got all the results already. But DAMN! Some surprising numbers in there.

Without the CF wheels I think the DH still bests the M1 HP...but not by much I'd imagine.

If the DH shows up with the optional CF wheels (which I think it will), there is no way it stays in the LL2 category...no matter how hard we all pray it does, Haha. For 2024, I think I'm more excited to see how the S650 GT/P is going to do, honestly. With the upgraded hardware (especially...

Figure I'd post this up in preparation for the actual results in the next coming days. Results from Our 16th Lightning Lap Are Almost Here (caranddriver.com) There aren't a lot of direct competitors to the S650 in here...save for the Supra 6M and the M240i...but still some heavy hitting...

Dang. I would LOVE to get bronze wheels from the factory on a black accent car. Speculation of course, but it would be nice to see the standalone option for the black roof appear again. That plus the bronze package...YUM!

You know...the limited availability and allotments were never a problem for me... The uptick on the finance rate, though? Yeah...not a fan...

Are ALL of these pictures shopped? A black accent package with bronze wheels looks absolutely killer! There is no way that's an ordering possibility is it? Edit: The rear brakes don't match GT/P brakes either...I'm thinking I've been FOOLED. 😭

Well, if it sounds anything like that 5.4L video above...*chef's kiss*... With confidence, I'm going to say the DH will out perform the M1 HP...which already performed at a high level. With the CF wheels equipped, I can see it surprising quite a lot of high dollar machines. Where does Ford go...

The M2 is on my short list as well...I kind of dig the weirdo styling... One thing is for sure, though...it won't be light. IIRC, it's over 3800lbs with the 6M and another +50 with the A8. I'm very curious to see how it drives. The previous gen was great. As for price, the way I spec'd it...

Charcuterie board!

I'm a big fan of C&D's Lightning Lap. I can't wait for the 2023 results to show up...IIRC, they said they'll publish the event sometime in February.

This car in the flesh (as is) with a wash and wax will look 100 times better than these photos. The S650 design, IMHO, does very well with metallic paint to really get the body lines to "POP". Having a clean car helps, LOL.

I gotta' be honest...that new Ecoboost Mustang is just CLEAN. Such a no-frills design, especially wingless.