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I won’t get into another debate with you but there are plenty of supercharged mustangs running track days and not melting down. I get you’re being cautious and conservative but you’re creating math to try and cement your position when it’s completely baseless. Your napkin math might make sense to you but it doesn’t translate to the real world. And there are a worlds worth of evidence driving around on tracks around the globe to prove it.
I am not asking for a debate.

If you have a real world example, make a thread.

Until then your claims do not matter, even if you claim thousands of these driving on tracks around the globe to prove it. I am just asking for one. One. Provide the evidence. Don't just assert that there is so much evidence that you cannot provide it. If there are as many examples as you claim, you ought to be able to provide one.

Or you can tune your forced induction car with the stock radiator and oil cooler and film 30 minutes of hard driving on track down there in Florida with a Garmin Catalyst or the like. That will convince me and everybody else.

Until then you are just making claims on a keyboard that you cannot back up.
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I am not asking for a debate.

If you have a real world example, make a thread.

Until then your claims do not matter, even if you claim thousands of these driving on tracks around the globe to prove it. I am just asking for one. One. Provide the evidence. Don't just assert that there is so much evidence that you cannot provide it. If there are as many examples as you claim, you ought to be able to provide one.

Or you can tune your forced induction car with the stock radiator and oil cooler and film 30 minutes on track down there in Florida with a Garmin Catalyst or the like. That will convince me and everybody else.

Until then you are just making claims on a keyboard that you cannot back up.
Im not going to spend another second debating with you jd. Its never ending blathering of your napkin math and its exhausting. These forum debates never go anywhere.
 

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Im not going to spend another second debating with you jd. Its never ending blathering of your napkin math and its exhausting. These forum debates never go anywhere.
One more time. I never requested the original debate, much less another debate or another second debating, or you exhausting yourself making claims you cannot back up.

You are spouting BS.

It would be very simple for you to prove it, if this was "real world" as you claim. But it's not.

I get it, you want to market your tuning skills. Cool. go for it.

But these claims that you can cool off a track car with 875 horsepower by tuning are utter BS.

You would not have to debate if it was real world. You could just put up and shut up and let the results speak for themselves.
 

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To be clear, my Dark Horse does not overheat on track in the summer at my driving level, completely OEM down to the tune.

The posts I wrote above are about the demands place on the stock cooling systems by adding forced induction, specifically responding to the other poster's question about whether a procharger might be better for this issue than a Whipple.

So I picked the Whipple horsepower and ran with it. (875)

There is no tuning your way out of removing the heat from 875 horsepower for a half hour on track.

It is not happening.

It is physics.

I am happy to be proved wrong, but your "You aren't the first person to track a street car" probably is not addressing what the other poster and I were discussing. If it is, then that real world example of a Whippled Mustang (or a procharged one) at 875 horsepower able to push 10/10 for 30 minutes at Road Atlanta with the stock cooling system and just tuning would be worthy of its own thread. But that ain't happening. And I am guessing that is not what you meant.
I dont think you understand heating issues as much as you think you do. There are plenty of super charged Mustangs running around on thr track. And your one time track visit doesnt make you an expert. Especially since you admitted to not looking at you guages and dont know what your actual temps were.
 

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One more time. I never requested the original debate, much less another debate or another second debating, or you exhausting yourself making claims you cannot back up.

You are spouting BS.

It would be very simple for you to prove it, if this was "real world" as you claim. But it's not.

I get it, you want to market your tuning skills. Cool. go for it.

But these claims that you can cool off a track car with 875 horsepower by tuning are utter BS.

You would not have to debate if it was real world. You could just put up and shut up and let the results speak for themselves.
Is the heat from the compressor (soak style) or the exhaust (active production as byproduct)?
 


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One more time. I never requested the original debate, much less another debate or another second debating, or you exhausting yourself making claims you cannot back up.

You are spouting BS.

It would be very simple for you to prove it, if this was "real world" as you claim. But it's not.

I get it, you want to market your tuning skills. Cool. go for it.

But these claims that you can cool off a track car with 875 horsepower by tuning are utter BS.

You would not have to debate if it was real world. You could just put up and shut up and let the results speak for themselves.
Bro. Chill out. You dont understand enough about the subject to be getting mad. Plus YOU are the one who is constantly bringing up heating issues. If you dont want a debate, then stop bring it up.
 

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Ok, post them up.

Make sure to include examples with no cooling modifications.

I have seen several, and they all struggled with heat.
Lol. You have tunnel vision and aren't reading. Take a break and come back when your feeling less emotional in your responses.
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