Making the S650 as capable or better than an SS 1le

[Nik691]

Hi guys, hope all is well and I hope I am posting this in the right place.

I have an s650 PP and I’ve already done some work to it. It does not have magneride, so I put the Ford performance track package on the car - M-FR3A-MAA.
This completely changed how the car felt and tightened things up a lot especially after I put wider wheels and bigger tires on it.

I had an SS 1le in the past, but because of a change in work I had to sell it. I came over to the s650 because I wanted to try something different and there is nothing like ringing this car out to redline, something the SS can’t compete with in my opinion.

I’m looking to get this car up to an SS 1le in terms of performance.

I also read the PP cars come with the DH sway bars, so not sure if I really need to change them out yet.

The car now feels up to snuff and I feel it could challenge an SS 1le on the track now, but wanted to see if I should do anything else?

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[MAT1955]

You want to get a Mustang up to Camaro standards. Well, first yuo'll have to install a $hitty, cheap-looking 60s interior witha butt ugly dash. then put in an engine and exhaust system that soulds like a bag of squirrels being strangled when under power and if it's a convertible a crappy top that doesn't work 50% of the time and when it does fold down it takes 50% of the trunk space..... I could go on. Oh, BTW, where is Camaro now - yeah, is's where it belongs - nowhere. You got a Mustang GT with PP - you already won the lottery dude.

 

[ZXMustang]

You want to get a Mustang up to Camaro standards. Well, first yuo'll have to install a $hitty, cheap-looking 60s interior witha butt ugly dash. then put in an engine and exhaust system that soulds like a bag of squirrels being strangled when under power and if it's a convertible a crappy top that doesn't work 50% of the time and when it does fold down it takes 50% of the trunk space..... I could go on. Oh, BTW, where is Camaro now - yeah, is's where it belongs - nowhere. You got a Mustang GT with PP - you already won the lottery dude.

CLEARLY you have never driven, or actually owned an SS1LE. It is a superior car in any road course scenario. Sorry, but thats the hard truth. They are the biggest bang for your buck for track work times 10. I have owned a 2017 and a 2020, and they are SICK. They still hold leader board records over cars 2-3x the price and power. Dont kid yourself here lol.

 

[Nik691]

CLEARLY you have never driven, or actually owned an SS1LE. It is a superior car in any road course scenario. Sorry, but thats the hard truth. They are the biggest bang for your buck for track work times 10. I have owned a 2017 and a 2020, and they are SICK. They still hold leader board records over cars 2-3x the price and power. Dont kid yourself here lol.

Curious- what made you get rid of yours? I find myself missing mine at times, but the coyote is just a more fun motor to me.

 

[ZXMustang]

Curious- what made you get rid of yours? I find myself missing mine at times, but the coyote is just a more fun motor to me.

ZL1. Then a string of hellcats followed by another ZL1 then several mustangs and a fe c8 corvettes. Some for business and some for pleasure.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

You want to get a Mustang up to Camaro standards. Well, first yuo'll have to install a $hitty, cheap-looking 60s interior witha butt ugly dash. then put in an engine and exhaust system that soulds like a bag of squirrels being strangled when under power and if it's a convertible a crappy top that doesn't work 50% of the time and when it does fold down it takes 50% of the trunk space..... I could go on. Oh, BTW, where is Camaro now - yeah, is's where it belongs - nowhere. You got a Mustang GT with PP - you already won the lottery dude.

Did a Camaro touch you wrong or something?

Hes talking about performance and handling. And you clearly have never driven a 1LE.

 

[MidwayJ]

The car now feels up to snuff and I feel it could challenge an SS 1le on the track now, but wanted to see if I should do anything else?

Something to address rubber bushing deflection in the IRS. Steeda stop the hop kit or BMR cradle lockout.

 

[Nik691]

Something to address rubber bushing deflection in the IRS. Steeda stop the hop kit or BMR cradle lockout.

What about these? Part number: M5A460M

They come with the track kit I mentioned in my original post but I only got the struts and s650 track springs to go with. I felt the rest of the stuff wasn’t needed.

I was looking at doing the stop the hop kit, probably will be next

 

[MidwayJ]

What about these? Part number: M5A460M

They come with the track kit I mentioned in my original post but I only got the struts and s650 track springs to go with. I felt the rest of the stuff wasn’t needed.

I was looking at doing the stop the hop kit, probably will be next

I don't know what that part number refers to.

 

[Nik691]

I don't know what that part number refers to.

Knuckle to toe link bearing

 

[MidwayJ]

Knuckle to toe link bearing

I expect it would be beneficial. Lethal Performance sells a kit that combines BMR cradle parts with those bearings.

 

[Cipis]

You want to get a Mustang up to Camaro standards. Well, first yuo'll have to install a $hitty, cheap-looking 60s interior witha butt ugly dash. then put in an engine and exhaust system that soulds like a bag of squirrels being strangled when under power and if it's a convertible a crappy top that doesn't work 50% of the time and when it does fold down it takes 50% of the trunk space..... I could go on. Oh, BTW, where is Camaro now - yeah, is's where it belongs - nowhere. You got a Mustang GT with PP - you already won the lottery dude.

So mean

 

[Alan Applegate]

Wow! No mercy in these pages for Chevy or Eco-Boost owners for that matter!

There is one way to embarrass either a race-prepared Camaro or Mustang. And that is, race a Spec Miata on a tight twisty course.

 

[jml]

Stuff that worked well in my car:
. Steeda Mustang IRS Subframe Alignment Kit 555-4438
. Steeda 555-4437 IRS Subframe Bushing Support System
. Steeda IRS subframe support braces 555-5754
. Steeda 555-4137 vertical links with Polyurethane Bushings
. Steeda 2 way G-trac front brace. 555-5535
. Michelin PS4S tires

Car handles much better.
Good luck for your upgrades!

 

[steedazach]

The car now feels up to snuff and I feel it could challenge an SS 1le on the track now, but wanted to see if I should do anything else?

We have a couple different Stop The Hop Kits. Attached is a link that shows all the different kits. If you have questions, contact Steeda and we will get you set up! https://www.steeda.com/shop/?tab=ac...urce=mustang7g&utm_campaign=zach-stop-the-hop

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