BCM update turns car into 2005 Escort.

[AZ_Ryan]

Maybe, but the purpose of this thread isn't about the galloping sound suddenly "disappear" for no apparent reason? (since the reason isn't the battery status, nor the seatbelts).

I'm not sure what's so difficult here.

All I said is that when the heartbeat (or Galloping sound) is replaced by a chime, it means there is a low battery condition.

If your gallop is disappearing and reappearing randomly, with no chime, and you have verified the battery is fully charged, then you have a separate issue.

Both seem relevant to the thread, no?

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[npole]

There's nothing difficult... as I've already answered to that and you said it was two different things/scenario:

my galloping sound is substituted by the chime "randomly" with the battery fully charged (or not), with the seatbelts on (or not).

As an example, I've mentioned my car sitting in the garage for a week (you expected the battery to be "less charged") and the galloping sound was there, then after have driven for hundred kms and stopped the car for 5 minutes and the next restart the galloping sound changed again with the "chime"... and then reappeared and then changed again.. and so on, without the battery playing a role.

It didn't that months ago (my habits were identical) as far as I remember, so an update (I don't know which one and when) introduced this behavior for an unknown reason.

 

[Sofa King]

There's nothing difficult... as I've already answered to that and you said it was two different things/scenario:

my galloping sound is substituted by the chime "randomly" with the battery fully charged (or not), with the seatbelts on (or not).

As an example, I've mentioned my car sitting in the garage for a week (you expected the battery to be "less charged") and the galloping sound was there, then after have driven for hundred kms and stopped the car for 5 minutes and the next restart the galloping sound changed again with the "chime"... and then reappeared and then changed again.. and so on, without the battery playing a role.

It didn't that months ago (my habits were identical) as far as I remember, so an update (I don't know which one and when) introduced this behavior for an unknown reason.

Or the battery has gotten worse... how are you verifying the battery condition as fully charged?

 

[npole]

Or the battery has gotten worse... how are you verifying the battery condition as fully charged?

By logic.. you cannot expect that the car sitting in the garage for a week has a fully charged battery, then it gets "less" charged after have driven for 200km, then it gets fully charged in the next 30 minutes, then it discharge... and so on in "random" situations, unless it has its own life.

(you can also read the voltage on the dashboard... but that's another matter)

 

[AZ_Ryan]

There's nothing difficult... as I've already answered to that and you said it was two different things/scenario:

my galloping sound is substituted by the chime "randomly" with the battery fully charged (or not), with the seatbelts on (or not).

As an example, I've mentioned my car sitting in the garage for a week (you expected the battery to be "less charged") and the galloping sound was there, then after have driven for hundred kms and stopped the car for 5 minutes and the next restart the galloping sound changed again with the "chime"... and then reappeared and then changed again.. and so on, without the battery playing a role.

It didn't that months ago (my habits were identical) as far as I remember, so an update (I don't know which one and when) introduced this behavior for an unknown reason.

How are you verifying your battery is charged when it does this?

The battery needs to cycle and reset itself after sitting or charging. This can take several hours. It's not an instantaneous reset after each start. So in the situation you described above, the battery cannot be eliminated as a possible cause.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

By logic.. you cannot expect that the car sitting in the garage for a week has a fully charged battery, then it gets "less" charged after have driven for 200km, then it gets fully charged in the next 30 minutes, then it discharge... and so on in "random" situations, unless it has its own life.

(you can also read the voltage on the dashboard... but that's another matter)

Or you can stop making assumptions and just do a voltage test on the battery which takes 30 seconds with a vottmeter. If you haven't done that, then you can not conclude the batteries state of charge is not causing the issue.

As I said above, These batteries are cycled and read by the computer. The charge state is not instantaneously updated with each start. It takes time for the computer to relearn the charge state. It also takes much longer than 30 min of drive time to "fully" charge.

 

[npole]

In no know world a car battery can be "fully charged" when sitting in the garage for a week, and be "less" charged by exiting the garage and drive for 200Km, then get "recharged" while the car is sitting again in the garage. You don't need to measure it, It's about simple logic.
Anyway, if you're convinced that is the battery, even if I show you the current voltage (the car is sitting in the garage for 4 days.. and then after I've driven it, it'll be in a better state) what's the conclusion? I'm not trying to convince you... I'm trying to figure where the "bug" lies.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

In no know world a car battery can be "fully charged" when sitting in the garage for a week, and be "less" charged by exiting the garage and drive for 200Km, then get "recharged" while the car is sitting again in the garage. You don't need to measure it, It's about simple logic.
Anyway, if you're convinced that is the battery, even if I show you the current voltage (the car is sitting in the garage for 4 days.. and then after I've driven it, it'll be in a better state) what's the conclusion? I'm not trying to convince you... I'm trying to figure where the "bug" lies.

Am I'm trying to tell you that after sitting for a week, or even 4 days, the battery is not going to be fully charged. And driving the car for 30 minutes after it's been sitting for a week IS NOT going to recharge it.

These cars go into a low battery condition VERY easily. I drive mine to work 5 days a week. But since it's only 15 mins at a time, the battery never gets to fully charge. After several weeks I have run into issues where I couldnt do an update, use Ford pass, or my gallop would revert to a chim after sitting for a weekend. Then 2 days later the gallop would come back. I discovered through calling Ford Pass and doing a voltage test, that my battery was low when this happens. Putting a batter tender on it for a few hours corrects the issues, and the gallop returns when the battery is charged. The manual also states that the car need to "read" the battery states after a charge, and it can take several hours.

All of these things would explain what's going on with your car. I'd encourage you to actually check the battery, and not assume it's state of charge when these issues happen.

 

[npole]

At this point I don't know if it's my English... or something else...

Am I'm trying to tell you that after sitting for a week, or even 4 days, the battery is not going to be fully charged.

I know, and that's why i said that is odd that the galloping sound WAS THERE when the battery is supposed to be LESS CHARGED after had the car resting in the garage for a week!

And driving the car for 30 minutes after it's been sitting for a week IS NOT going to recharge it.

And again.. read above.

These cars go into a low battery condition VERY easily.

Exactly, so how's possible (read above)

All of these things would explain what's going on with your car. I'd encourage you to actually check the battery, and not assume it's state of charge when these issues happen.

I will, but I just mentioned how's possible ... (see above ... again).

 

[Cobrakit]

Since my.last update, the galloping is no longer present when I open door. If I cycle on/off button I can get gallop. So for me, doesn't appear to be battery driven. Something they changed.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Since my.last update, the galloping is no longer present when I open door. If I cycle on/off button I can get gallop. So for me, doesn't appear to be battery driven. Something they changed.

I've never gotten the gallop when I opened the door. Only when I press on/off.

 

[Cobrakit]

Maybe my memory is bad !

 

[GrabThatBlue]

Maybe my memory is bad !

I do remember the first Mustangs on video did the heartbeat sound when opening the door. But I never had this on my 2024 Mustang. Must be an update.

 

[Cipis]

At this point I don't know if it's my English... or something else...



I know, and that's why i said that is odd that the galloping sound WAS THERE when the battery is supposed to be LESS CHARGED after had the car resting in the garage for a week!



And again.. read above.



Exactly, so how's possible (read above)



I will, but I just mentioned how's possible ... (see above ... again).

Do you know that the battery has much higher battery charge level before start after sitting many days than after the start and driving 30 minutes? So logic yet not understanding. So yes. The battery is much stronger before you take your car out for drive….

 

[npole]

Do you know that the battery has much higher battery charge level before start after sitting many days than after the start and driving 30 minutes? So logic yet not understanding. So yes. The battery is much stronger before you take your car out for drive….

Some functions goes "sleep" when the battery reaches "low" levels (you can check in the app).
I can assure you that after a week or more sitting in the garage the battery voltage is a WAY lower than after have a run on the highway for an hour or more and come back (measured).
So what I've said above, it's what happening to me: losing the "galopping" sound randomly, or to be exact, it uses a logic that may be related to the battery (or anything else) but not immediately understandable, it's not: if battery V < X then disable it; when the battery V return above X re-enable it.

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