New recall: water intrusion into BCM and connectors (25C43/25V546)

[DarkkMatter]

Well, I've driven through blinding rain and been through touchless car washes w/o issue, so hoping it won't be a problem.

I remember shortly after I got my '12 GT the black pouch drain under the windshield cowl was installed backwards facing up. I had to reach down, feel around, pull it out and install it properly. Never had water in passenger floorboard after that.

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[steveo1960]

Please do tell what is that about? My DH has an issue where it stops pumping every 5 seconds. The pump thinks the gas tank is full. This happened on day 1. Only way to avoid this is to rotate the handle 90 degree or upside down. I took it to the dealer any they replaced a sensor twice and still happens every now and then. Dealer blamed it on the pump too

I have same issue. I suspect it's the pump because it's intermittent. Turning the handle works fine for me when it happens, which for me is rare.

 

[Zig]

Please do tell what is that about? My DH has an issue where it stops pumping every 5 seconds. The pump thinks the gas tank is full. This happened on day 1. Only way to avoid this is to rotate the handle 90 degree or upside down. I took it to the dealer any they replaced a sensor twice and still happens every now and then. Dealer blamed it on the pump too

it’s the at least part of the comment that applies, ford isn’t saying because it rains no, they are acknowledging a design limitation without attempting to shift blame to the customer, unlike what gm is doing with their quick as fire corvettes recall.

“The C8 Corvette Z06 and ZR1 have been recalled due to a potential fire risk at gas pumps, caused by flammable gasoline vapors near hot engine components. General Motors is working on a solution to address this issue.”

“An investigation by the Detroit legacy automaker identified four alleged fires potentially related to the defect.

Malfunctioning gas station pumps were contributing factors in at least two of these incidents, according to the report.

As a remedy, dealers will install a shield to divert spilled fuel, NHTSA said.”

 

[Starship Enterprise]

Please do tell what is that about? My DH has an issue where it stops pumping every 5 seconds. The pump thinks the gas tank is full. This happened on day 1. Only way to avoid this is to rotate the handle 90 degree or upside down. I took it to the dealer any they replaced a sensor twice and still happens every now and then. Dealer blamed it on the pump too

That problem is an inherent issue with having twin saddle tanks. Been an issue since the S197, which I had. What happens is… if the gas is pumping too fast, the closest tank fills before the other side fills, and that sends a back pressure signal to the pump that the tank is full.

My solution was simple and worked. Just pump the gas at a slower rate.

Why the problem at certain pumps? They might pump the gas at a rate higher than the saddle tanks can handle.

 

[Zig]

That problem is an inherent issue with having twin saddle tanks. Been an issue since the S197, which I had. What happens is if pumping too fast, the closest tank fills before the other side fills, and that sends a back pressure signal to the pump that the tank is full.

My solution was simple and worked. Just pump the gas at a slower rate.

Why the problem at certain pumps? They might pump the gas at a rate higher than the saddle tanks can handle.

Agreed, i was gonna go with don’t stick it in as far but your explanation fills in the gaps better.

 

[Starship Enterprise]

Agreed, i was gonna go with don’t stick it in as far but your explanation fills in the gaps better.

 

[Snowflee17]

How did you get informed? The App?

I got mine in the FordPass app!

 

[UNSAFE]

Nice try Ford! Not going to get me to fall for your trickery to get my BCM updated so I lose the default Auto Stop/Start Off setting!

 

[INSANEMUSTANG9]

It’s crazy how my 06 s197 had same issue and we are still having this problem, s650 has 50k on it now and no issues and in Florida it rains about every day, I’ll have to check for moisture, windshields seals were shot on s650 on wonder were water gets in

 

[Mastermind46]

That problem is an inherent issue with having twin saddle tanks. Been an issue since the S197, which I had. What happens is… if the gas is pumping too fast, the closest tank fills before the other side fills, and that sends a back pressure signal to the pump that the tank is full.

My solution was simple and worked. Just pump the gas at a slower rate.

Why the problem at certain pumps? They might pump the gas at a rate higher than the saddle tanks can handle.

The slower pumping may be a benefit to the CARB emissions pump handles we have in CO at some new stations like Costco for the Mustang. They pump a bit slower and I have never had one shutoff while filling the mustang. I can only use the slowest setting when filling my Silverado due to the fill neck being pinched (haven't had the heart to pull the bed again to fix it). At the stations with the CARB handles, I can use the second setting. The CARB handles also have a spring loaded collar that needs to be compressed and held tight against the filler hole which does not fit well on some vehicles making it hard to set and not hold pressure with the your hand. I see a lot of pumps shutoff due to that.

I got notice of the BCM recall through Carfax. A dealership set me up with an account years ago and I have been adding my vehicles to it ever since.

 

[LouG]

Seriously remove this crap. No need for all this shit. Can buss is a joke and my fringing headlights, radio, windows, or whatever don't need to communicate with anything. Simple switch window goes up window goes down if you need remote up/down just put in a basic radio module tuned to the key fob.. My radio doesn't need to know what piston 8 is doing nor do my windows.

Agreed. I had a Hyundai that developed indicator problems, the dealer said that's the BCM, $1200 thanks, ex Korea, non refundable. So I ordered one.
Next day I was talking to my electronics wizz brother and he said try cleaning all the flasher bulb contacts. And Bingo! Flashers working fine.
Luckily I was able to cancel the order, they hadn't put it through.
Too much interconnected crap on cars now.

 

[NuclearDiode]

it’s the at least part of the comment that applies, ford isn’t saying because it rains no, they are acknowledging a design limitation without attempting to shift blame to the customer, unlike what gm is doing with their quick as fire corvettes recall.

“The C8 Corvette Z06 and ZR1 have been recalled due to a potential fire risk at gas pumps, caused by flammable gasoline vapors near hot engine components. General Motors is working on a solution to address this issue.”

“An investigation by the Detroit legacy automaker identified four alleged fires potentially related to the defect.

Malfunctioning gas station pumps were contributing factors in at least two of these incidents, according to the report.

As a remedy, dealers will install a shield to divert spilled fuel, NHTSA said.”

Hmm, so in other words, Ford’s mess up is better than GM’s mess up? One recall is for a high-performance car, the other recall is for a regular consumer vehicle…

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Everyone on this site is so damn reactionary. Lol.

I went through 2 recalls in a year on my '23 Mach 1. Both were easy fixes that affected virtually no one. I'd rather put up with a minor annoyance than have Ford not acknowledge a known problem.

It'll be ok people. Chill.

 

[Kitulu]

Please do tell what is that about? My DH has an issue where it stops pumping every 5 seconds. The pump thinks the gas tank is full. This happened on day 1. Only way to avoid this is to rotate the handle 90 degree or upside down. I took it to the dealer any they replaced a sensor twice and still happens every now and then. Dealer blamed it on the pump too

My GT does that at a specific gas station one one of the pumps. I think that specific pump flows faster than the others, which causes fuel to splash off the inside of the filler neck and trigger the pump cutoff. If I only squeeze the handle halfway, or move the nozzle out a little, it doesn't cut off.

For the recall, it seems to me that the simple fix is to seal the connectors where the wires go in. We had similar issues with some of the connectors on the Apache, and the fix was a potting sealant material with shrink tape applied over it.

 

[Starship Enterprise]

Everyone on this site is so damn reactionary. Lol.

I went through 2 recalls in a year on my '23 Mach 1. Both were easy fixes that affected virtually no one. I'd rather put up with a minor annoyance than have Ford not acknowledge a known problem.

It'll be ok people. Chill.

Too late…I’ve already been running naked down the street sceaming “Why Ford, whyyy?”

My GT does that at a specific gas station one one of the pumps. I think that specific pump flows faster than the others, which causes fuel to splash off the inside of the filler neck and trigger the pump cutoff. If I only squeeze the handle halfway, or move the nozzle out a little, it doesn't cut off.

Exactly. It’s all about back pressure.

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