S650 Mustang -Keep hands on steering wheel message

[Sinthor 5.56]

This is just dumb though. It doesn't sense if your hands are on the wheel, it senses if the wheel hasn't manually been moved by you in the past 15-20 seconds and then goes off.

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[Zig]

The thing is...this literally comes up every 15-20 seconds. So even if you're on a long, straight piece of road, you have to keep jiggling the wheel or it will beep and yell at you. Ridiculous! My wife's care does this but it actually senses if your hand is on the wheel and will only freak out if you DON'T have hands on the wheel. With my Mustang...that doesn't matter. If the wheel isn't being moved back and forth by me, the warning comes on. Absolutely silly.

Lane keep: Should it detect by weight (easy defeat), heat (gloves suppress) or wiggle (camera compare detected road to determined input)? Although wiggle is an easy task that also may help determine not asleep.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

The thing is...this literally comes up every 15-20 seconds. So even if you're on a long, straight piece of road, you have to keep jiggling the wheel or it will beep and yell at you. Ridiculous! My wife's care does this but it actually senses if your hand is on the wheel and will only freak out if you DON'T have hands on the wheel. With my Mustang...that doesn't matter. If the wheel isn't being moved back and forth by me, the warning comes on. Absolutely silly.

Must be how you're holding the wheel. Mine doesn't do that.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

This is just dumb though. It doesn't sense if your hands are on the wheel, it senses if the wheel hasn't manually been moved by you in the past 15-20 seconds and then goes off.

That is not how it works.

 

[Starship Enterprise]

I don’t recommend it, but can’t help but wonder what happens if you pull fuse #137?

 

[Zig]

I don’t recommend it, but can’t help but wonder what happens if you pull fuse #137?

Easier /safer to just push the button on the steering wheel but now i gotta find a pic that shows the button (unless anyone else has one handy)

 

[Zig]

There is solution for this. Press two times this button:

 

[AZ_Ryan]

That is not how it works.

I detects the weight on the wheel. If your hands are at 10 and 2 it won't give you the alert. If you are one handing it from the bottom on the wheel, it won't detect the weight and alert you.

 

[LouG]

That is not how it works.

That is what I was told too. I almost always hold the wheel at the quarter to three position, or sometimes twenty to four and it warned me all the time.
I just turned off the Ford system and re-engaged the Lou system.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

That is what I was told too. I almost always hold the wheel at the quarter to three position, or sometimes twenty to four and it warned me all the time.
I just turned off the Ford system and re-engaged the Lou system.

One hand or two?

I was just using mine over the weekend. It alerted me when I just held the wheel from the bottom. When I switched to 10 and 2 the warnings stopped. You need the appropriate weight on the wheel so it doesn't alert.

Anchor Room even experimented with weights that fit over the paddle shifters. They fooled the system into thinking your hands were on the wheel.

Periodically turning the wheel is not a requirement.

 

[LouG]

One hand or two?

I was just using mine over the weekend. It alerted me when I just held the wheel from the bottom. When I switched to 10 and 2 the warnings stopped. You need the appropriate weight on the wheel so it doesn't alert.

Anchor Room even experimented with weights that fit over the paddle shifters. They fooled the system into thinking your hands were not on the wheel.

Periodically turning the wheel is not a requirement.

Two hands. Now I'm not disputing what you may feel happening. But on the demo car I drove, weight on the wheel made no difference. When I talked to the salesman, because this was a major deal breaker, he said to twitch the wheel. That worked.
He mentioned Ford Australia looking for a fix in the software. When I got my car I knew by then that turning off lane assist did the trick.
I never found out if the software thing was done, but I never get the warning anymore.

 

[Sinthor 5.56]

One hand or two?

I was just using mine over the weekend. It alerted me when I just held the wheel from the bottom. When I switched to 10 and 2 the warnings stopped. You need the appropriate weight on the wheel so it doesn't alert.

Anchor Room even experimented with weights that fit over the paddle shifters. They fooled the system into thinking your hands were not on the wheel.

Periodically turning the wheel is not a requirement.

Ok...now I feel embarrassed. So, I think that this may be buggy or inconsistent. I normally have a light touch on the wheel although my hands are on there and I have been puzzled in the past how on some drives there's no issue and others..the damn thing is going crazy. But now I think that while the wheel turning definitely does reset the clock, the car IS ALSO registering your grip on the wheel. Just had about an hour long drive home from work, and I purposely kept a SUPER light grip on the wheel but let the car drive on the freeway. It tripped and several times, I didn't move the wheel, but squeezed fairly hard...message went away. When I focused on keeping a pretty tight grip on the wheel but again, not doing any steering at all...no message. But I also tested again several times and when it goes off, even with one hand, just moving the wheel slightly right or left gets rid of the message and also keeps it from coming back. So I think it may be some of both, and perhaps some of our cars aren't calibrated correctly so it seems wrong to us and bugs us. But I think I'm good now and understand how it's working more now. I knew I don't always move the wheel back and forth and some drives, I never get the message at all. Go figure!

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Two hands. Now I'm not disputing what you may feel happening. But on the demo car I drove, weight on the wheel made no difference. When I talked to the salesman, because this was a major deal breaker, he said to twitch the wheel. That worked.
He mentioned Ford Australia looking for a fix in the software. When I got my car I knew by then that turning off lane assist did the trick.
I never found out if the software thing was done, but I never get the warning anymore.

Interesting. I wonder if the software is different from USA cars.

 

[LouG]

Interesting. I wonder if the software is different from USA cars.

Dunno, Aussies do all sorts of strange things with cars.

 

[MidLifeManifustang]

Periodically turning the wheel is not a requirement.

Interesting, this isn't my experience at all. Jiggling the wheel is absolutely mandatory on my car, or I get the warning. I've tried squeezing the wheel at the 9 and 3 and 10 and 2 positions and it makes no difference.

I haven't tried pulling downwards on the wheel to put weight on it but I'd venture to say that the weight of my arms just resting on the wheel is probably above the population average and this shouldn't be necessary.

The fact that you don't experience the problem makes me wonder if it's more of a hardware / calibration thing explained by production variances versus an issue correctable by software. I was hoping it might be the latter and eventually fixable with an OTA update, or re-flashing some module at the dealer.

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