Is 486hp enough?? Let’s discuss

[Bikeman315]

To me, it's about PPHP. Price per HP. The dark horse approaching 2016/2020 GT350 HP and price. Not really a great gain and smiles per gallon at the price. Not to mention the 2015GT vs. 2024GT. Performance has increased, but not by 20K....ish.

This might be viable if you counted in inflation and just the year over year increases we always see. Also have to compare standard equipment over the years. Also improvements in tech and performance. In others words a straight up PPHP doesn’t really work.

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[Shelbeast]

This might be viable if you counted in inflation and just the year over year increases we always see. Also have to compare standard equipment over the years. Also improvements in tech and performance. In others words a straight up PPHP doesn’t really work.

Maybe, but at the end of the day, it's about value/return. How much will you get in return if you sell it 4-5 years a later. The electronics and price fix will diminish value even more in post 2024. Ford would like nothing more than to charge more for subscriptions and repairs. Cost to maintain is PPHP as well.

 

[Bikeman315]

Maybe, but at the end of the day, it's about value/return. How much will you get in return if you sell it 4-5 years a later. The electronics and price fix will diminish value even more in post 2024. Ford would like nothing more than to charge more for subscriptions and repairs. Cost to maintain is PPHP as well.

I hear you but ROI should not be a consideration if you're buying a Mustang. Except maybe a Shelby. Not sure if one extra video screen and the small expected uptick in MSRP for the S650 is really going to make a difference either in value or repair costs. ESP's can make sense even on the S550 if you are going to keep it beyond the 3/36. I know I did.

Subscriptions, maybe who knows. For more expensive luxury car definitely, on bread and butter cars hopefully not.

 

[1958cyclist]

I have to say...if this is the swan song for ICE motors, the Coyote is a pretty darn good send off! As someone above mentioned, 100 horsepower per liter in a street motor!? Stop, think about that, and let it sink in. Look at the large cubic inches it required back in the day to even get close to these figures. Enough said...

 

[IceGamer]

I have to say...if this is the swan song for ICE motors, the Coyote is a pretty darn good send off! As someone above mentioned, 100 horsepower per liter in a street motor!? Stop, think about that, and let it sink in. Look at the large cubic inches it required back in the day to even get close to these figures. Enough said...

100hp per Liter isn't anything special... Just look at AMGs four banger... 2 Liter 400+hp...

However, it is somewhat special if we exclude turbo charged engines.

At the end of the day it's pure marketing...

 

[MustangMac67]

100hp per Liter isn't anything special... Just look at AMGs four banger... 2 Liter 400+hp...

However, it is somewhat special if we exclude turbo charged engines.

At the end of the day it's pure marketing...

Like you said, it is special if we exclude forced induction. NA is the swan song

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