I will NOT be ordering a SC DH

[Junkyard Dog]

Yeah, I know it's early, but I think there is a lot more to it than smacking a Whipple on top of the engine and jacking up the price.

When "Top Gear" and all the other automotive journalists start running laps on road courses, the last thing they are going to want is for the car to go into limp mode a few minutes in.

Which is, by the way, what would happen to those of you who simply buy a Whipple and hit the road course. First, the tuning will pull so much timing a few minutes in that naturally aspirated Mustangs will be accelerating harder than you on the straights, and then the car will go into limp mode to protect the engine.

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[smurfslayer]

Why dh sc over adding a warrantied whipple? Bigger oil coolers, engineered oversized intercooler openings vs stuffing what you can where you can. This is huge imo. Heat sink from multiple drag runs, multiple 60 to 120 street racing, or multiple laps on a road course. I'm not going into price justification, just the want to have those items.
I wonder how many people that added oil coolers to their gt wish they had just gotten a dh that had it.

All fair points, but I would point out we have a bunch on here running stage1 & 2 whipples on GT's and MDH and yes, there have been some teething issues, but I think extra cooling is doable on the non SC model depending on the use case.

There's a right and wrong use case for each path.

I would posit here that the product '24 - '25 Dark Horse HP car is more capable on track than 99% of the total purchasers. You have push the car really, really hard to find the outright limits. It already has pretty decent cooling - for stock or close to stock applications.

The DHSC is more car than anyone outside the top tier competition level will be able to exploit (correctly, anyway. I'm not referring to fúcking up outside cars and coffee).

I was just pointing out that I'm surprised you see that blower as a supported option, as it seems to position itself over the Dark Horse, but below the DHSC and would undercut the ability of the stealerships to command $50k ADM. The whether or not it's cheaper, better, or "Poverty DHSC", whatever you want to call it, is another discussion.

 

[Gojiras breath]

I went to track attack as well as 3 other tutored road racing classes. Im in that league of not getting the stock n/a dh anywhere near its limits. I might even say i suck. But i leave w a smile.

 

[smurfslayer]

I went to track attack as well as 3 other tutored road racing classes. Im in that league of not getting the stock n/a dh anywhere near its limits. I might even say i suck. But i leave w a smile.

That's what it's all about !

 

[JimiHendrix]

ok, whoever told you that stuff was just flat-out lying. it's only $3500, and joining the program promises one allocation, with future ones dependent on sales performance

also, i have some new information. Ford shared a statement about the price, and it sums up to basically saying the vehicle may cost in the $95k to $115k price range. whether that's base price or realistically optioned is unknown, as well as other details that my affect the price. by the sounds of it, they were really non-committal to anything yet, so that range is my own assumption based on information they gave. take it with a massive grain of salt. but also, that lower end compliments my estimated base price very well

It would seem the information I reported was half right and - 🫵 - although, I would bet Ford F*%ks a lot of participating dealers who buy into the program by not providing the ONE car until they damn well feel like it - and those blow hard, a$$ licking dealers like Hendrick get all they WANT

 

[Epiphany]

The 5k number is correct.

Pricing is out and it is INSANELY high. Roket, you seeing this?

 

[roket]

The 5k number is correct.

Pricing is out and it is INSANELY high. Roket, you seeing this?

yeah, i saw. but i don't believe any of it right now. Ford has no order or price guides out currently for the SC, so i will not be acknowledging those prices as anything other than speculation, and i urge others to do the same

 

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[broncoboy22]

Overpriced for what is IMO. Disappointing

 

[roket]

i'm normally pretty critical of these automotive channels because sometimes their content is questionable, but props to Speed Phenom and especially StangMode for saying outright that these leaks aren't official prices. i mean, we don't know if this is a false leak or something being spread to drive people away from buying it or if it's real. and we won't know until Ford reveals something themselves, which as of now, they haven't

 

[Germansheperd]

It is going to have to beat the Z06 to be relevant.

 

[smurfslayer]

My bet is we are all being played by FMC.

This is a trial balloon to measure just how much outrage the comically high asking prices are, especially knowing a significant portion is to make up the loss of the failed EV program. First we were amortizing the loss per EV unit, now we're subsidizing the bailout.

Do better Ford.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

I do not get comparing a heavy coupe with a front engine and back seat to a carmaker's flagship two seater sports car.

 

[OX1]

I do not get comparing a heavy coupe with a front engine and back seat to a carmaker's flagship two seater sports car.

Well, track pack has no back seat. Stang does have to start out being based on a 4 seat, low price engineered, EB. But that is not Chevy's problem if Ford is asking same money now as a Z06. If $ are the same/close, comparison's are valid no matter what we are talking (IMO).

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