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Got that pic from this article https://www.carscoops.com/2023/02/2024-ram-rev-electric-truck-unveiled-in-production-form-lacks-concepts-drama/ Not a huge dodge follower, but whether it's a current screen or future, it's what many of us would like to see (in regards to buttons and knobs). It's...

Dodge seems to get it, and this is an EV.,,,,,,,,,,,,

I'm not saying it will be ready for prime time, I'm saying the powers that be seem to be on their own mission these days to do whatever the heck they want. And they seem to want it. Right/wrong, legal/not legal do not seem to matter much anymore. Hence why I think we are getting it and the...

Maybe in the near term, but self driving will cancel that out. I feel most of the general public will be fine not having to drive, so who cares how the controls operate without having to look at them.

No matter what the trim level, basic heater and radio controls should be buttons and knobs that you do not have to look away from the road to use, period (either steering wheel or dash). If you want to duplicate those functions on some screen (for maybe more advanced functioning of those items)...

It's so bad, you have to wonder if Ford is trying to kill the REAL Mustang.

I think we agree on looks, I was just talking stock performance and the apparant potential with some fairly "minimal" bolt ons. Not too many Fords doing 0-60 in the 3's with summer tires on the street (no prep). I've tried to get in the 3's (using Dragy) with my S197 auto that runs 10.7's @ 130...

To make Model 3 owners run back to the dealer (errr......I mean wherever those thing get serviced) wondering why they can't shake this ugly looking 4 door Lincoln?

Pretty big step backwards compared to the potential of the last MKZ Lincoln sold.

Make it STOP!!!!

When you put them back to back, I agree, the new interior is horrendous.

https://www.s197forum.com/threads/what-happened-to-norm.140020/#post-2524673

Same. On no planet is a 58-60 Bird uglier than a 61. A 61 was one of the ugliest cars ever, forget just T-birds.

I want to know more about that separate emerg brake caliper. I have a bunch of older vehicles with rear disk kits and no working emerg brake. I assume it is the same emerg brake caliper on new GT500.

So far at my track, you get one track day in 22 (maybe) for EV's.............. https://njmp.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/NJMP-Electric-Cars-Announcement-003.pdf Also sounds like maybe the insr companies are not fully on board yet. Hope they charge those extra costs to the EV owners, a track...

Point was, it's NOT called a 911. And that 4 door ugly monstrosity is not a Mustang.

Not sure what you wanted from a Fusion, but here is my experience. Paid $27.3K new, Put 245/40ZR-19 PS4S's on it, sway bars, and a 93 tune. So well under 30 grand with mods. Ran 12.7's my second pass. With minor weight reduction (spare/mats/remove junk) Does 0-30 in about the same...

Not in throttle response, and the coyote throttle response blows compared to any Winsdor that had an actual throttle cable (part of that may be the new autos too).

I'm counting on the lawyers to do what they do, and sue right out of business this autonomous disaster coming.

Don't forget the 462 MEL's :)