Has anyone noticed hood lift?

[smurfslayer]

In the Northeast, the fastest speed limit is probably 70, as the traffic is quite congested in many places. That doesn't mean you can't stretch the Mustang's legs, but you have to be judicious! Glenn

There are pockets of the NE US that are very friendly to high speed, but they are scarce. MASS turnpike, sections of I-95. I was on the MA Pike in the 2000’s. Speed limit was 65, I was being flashed out of the way for passers at 80 and they were not dawdling. But, in general the US East coast is vastly overcrowded, with insufficient roadway infrastructure to support the motoring public. So uncorking a fast sports car - or bike is potentially dangerous.

@GrabThatBlue perhaps we don't appreciate each others driving conditions as the speed factors they are?

I live in a rural agricultural county; where one’s ability to “safely (on the road safety being relative and all) achieve triple digit speeds is dependent on traffic density, “The Man” (and speed cameras ‘n such) density, and most importantly “road quality”.

Did I mention “wildlife”? NO! Not la vida loco!

Michigan; 10 million people, 2 million white tailed deer. Deer like to eat crops; like the kind that grow in rural agricultural counties.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/deer-population-by-state

“In 2023, more than 58,000 vehicle-deer crashes occurred across Michigan in rural, suburban, and city settings. About 80 percent of those crashes were on two-lane roads. Because deer are most active at dawn and dusk, it is not surprising that most traffic crashes involving deer happen from 5 a.m. to 8 a.m. and 5 p.m. to 10 p.m.”

I live inside the village (10 K people) limits; in the last 2 weeks I had 15 deer in my back yard one afternoon, and the other morning; when I looked out my back door to check on my GT; there were 2 deer between my driveway and the neighbors.

No lions or tigers, but we got plenty bear, coyotes, turkeys, and vultures too. Dairy cattle are fun! Or NOT!

Road quality. There’s such a thing? Triple digit speeds in most places in MI in a Mustang might jar your fillings loose, or pogo your @$$ into the ditch (not kidding) with the turkeys.

In fairness; my perception of Euro/EU driving is; more/better driver education, more stringent driver/vehicle certification, and much better maintained roads than here. But, I could be wrong.

I agree about Michigan, from my single visit there. Around Detroit has to be some of the worst paved interstates I’ve ever seen. There were “no motorcycles in left lane” signs everywhere and it was no joke. There were these very large drainage dips that would definitely spit you off and this was notwithstanding the significant pot holes, pavement ripples and general disrepair.

I think the European roads get more investment, and there may well be more driver training, but I think the percentage of that training that’s applied daily is negligible over a US trained driver. There are just as many cell yakkers, left lane turtles in the countries that drive on the proper side of the road, right lane turtles for those backwards countries, and weird behavior seen in the US.
The pavement is always better on the other side of the border, right ?

Is 90 miles per hour really fast for guys in the US? Everytime when people talk about driving fast I see 2 digit numbers.

I would say 110 miles per hour and up is called fast. Everything below 100 is just normal.
On our highways we have the speed limit of 130km/h (80mph). So literally every car is at least doing 80mph on the highwa0y even grannies.

The US East coast, ‘former colonies’ tend to be a bit puritanical about traffic. In Virginia, 81mph or faster OR > 20mph over the posted limit can get you up to a year in jail / $2500 fine; a class 1 misdemeanor- just below a felony. By and large, they’re doing nothing more than ‘revenuing’.

In sparsely populated states, or those that aren’t as overcrowded, you can find 2 lane state roads with a 70mph limit, that on the east coast would be signed 45mph.

It just depends where you are.

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[GrabThatBlue]

There are pockets of the NE US that are very friendly to high speed, but they are scarce. MASS turnpike, sections of I-95. I was on the MA Pike in the 2000’s. Speed limit was 65, I was being flashed out of the way for passers at 80 and they were not dawdling. But, in general the US East coast is vastly overcrowded, with insufficient roadway infrastructure to support the motoring public. So uncorking a fast sports car - or bike is potentially dangerous.




I agree about Michigan, from my single visit there. Around Detroit has to be some of the worst paved interstates I’ve ever seen. There were “no motorcycles in left lane” signs everywhere and it was no joke. There were these very large drainage dips that would definitely spit you off and this was notwithstanding the significant pot holes, pavement ripples and general disrepair.

I think the European roads get more investment, and there may well be more driver training, but I think the percentage of that training that’s applied daily is negligible over a US trained driver. There are just as many cell yakkers, left lane turtles in the countries that drive on the proper side of the road, right lane turtles for those backwards countries, and weird behavior seen in the US.
The pavement is always better on the other side of the border, right ?



The US East coast, ‘former colonies’ tend to be a bit puritanical about traffic. In Virginia, 81mph or faster OR > 20mph over the posted limit can get you up to a year in jail / $2500 fine; a class 1 misdemeanor- just below a felony. By and large, they’re doing nothing more than ‘revenuing’.

In sparsely populated states, or those that aren’t as overcrowded, you can find 2 lane state roads with a 70mph limit, that on the east coast would be signed 45mph.

It just depends where you are.

Well, I've visited 25 states in the US and have seen all countries in Europe.
In general, yes, Europe has better roads. People that stay on the left is more common in the US, but that's because i've seen signs in the US that advices you to stay in your lane, this does not exist in Europe. Training in Europe is indeed better since I seen thousands of threads all around the internet where people bragging about driving stick. When I see comments where this happens, I know 100% sure that they are American. Bragging driving stick in Europe is the same as bragging driving a bycicle. Everybody can bro LOL. And yes, we have driver licenses that are only for driving automatic cars, but most of the people that train to drive only automatic are disabled people who have some medical issues or very old people.

But coming back on road conditions. I live in one of the best countries when it comes to beautiful roads, but we pay one of the highest road taxes in the world.

But still I disagree about USA not having the proper conditions to drive quick.
I drove on tons of highways with multiple lanes where the max speed is 70 and some were even 80 and where the road conditions were perfectly fine to test your vehicle out for a couple of seconds.

But saying that your car is not driving comfortable on high speed is totally different if you do not tell that it's not because of your car but because of where you are trying to drive on high speed.

If you say your car is not driving comfortable in high speeds, this means your car is not that well engineered while the Mustang is pefectly fine on high speed.

 

[smurfslayer]

True, but you have to remember that you’re driving a machine superior to about 85% of the vehicles you’re sharing the road with, and maybe more. IOW, you may well be a well trained, skilled, track capable driver in a track capable car, but the people you’re sharing the road with are largely inattentive, and driving because they have to, not because they want to.

If you’ve been on track for more than... 3 days with some training, you’re a better driver than 98% of the motoring public and at least 90% of most police officers. But you will still get cited for exploiting your skills. ;-)

 

[GrabThatBlue]

True, but you have to remember that you’re driving a machine superior to about 85% of the vehicles you’re sharing the road with, and maybe more. IOW, you may well be a well trained, skilled, track capable driver in a track capable car, but the people you’re sharing the road with are largely inattentive, and driving because they have to, not because they want to.

If you’ve been on track for more than... 3 days with some training, you’re a better driver than 98% of the motoring public and at least 90% of most police officers. But you will still get cited for exploiting your skills. ;-)

I never said to drive high speeds with other people on the road.
Ofcourse traffic is an all day issue, but you never had an open highway all for yourself?
Maybe I've been to the wrong 25 states in the US and I should visit the other 25 that I haven't seen.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I never said to drive high speeds with other people on the road.
Ofcourse traffic is an all day issue, but you never had an open highway all for yourself?
Maybe I've been to the wrong 25 states in the US and I should visit the other 25 that I haven't seen.

The vast majority of US highways are very congested at any given time unless you are in a rural area. Traffic density is more of a factor than the speed limit. That said, it's pretty easy to test your car at high speed for a brief minute. You just have to be smart about it. Street racing is a huge problem in urban areas. Many states have "criminal speeding" laws (generally 20 miles over or in designated zones) which result in jail time, fines, having your car impounded, and suspension of your license. While rarely inforced, having a loud sports car puts a target on your back.

Going back to the discussion, the hood flutter jest means the stops need to be adjusted. Unfortunately that usually results in less than ideal panel gap on the S550 and S650.

 

[glenng6]

Because of our low speed limits it's an instant licence loss if you're more than 40 over the 100kmh limit.
Having ignored that, I had the Mustang up to 180 briefly and thought it was quite stable at that. I'd quite happily cruise at 160 to 180 or so for long periods.

I feel the same. I was quite comfortable at 140 and didn't notice anything amiss. No excessive noise, rattles, or shaking. My Z was much the same and was very stable at speed. I worked 12-7 a.m. and often got off work between 3-4 a.m. I hit 140-160 many times on R78. It was quite a while ago, but I remember after 78 was newly re-paved, it was so smooth you really didn't realize you were going that fast. And at 3am you can't see the telephone poles! They have recently re-paved parts of 78, but I'm too old to get up at 3-4 a.m. Glenn

 

[GrabThatBlue]

I feel the same. I was quite comfortable at 140 and didn't notice anything amiss. No excessive noise, rattles, or shaking. My Z was much the same and was very stable at speed. I worked 12-7 a.m. and often got off work between 3-4 a.m. I hit 140-160 many times on R78. It was quite a while ago, but I remember after 78 was newly re-paved, it was so smooth you really didn't realize you were going that fast. And at 3am you can't see the telephone poles! They have recently re-paved parts of 78, but I'm too old to get up at 3-4 a.m. Glenn

You are literally the first American that I've seen saying this lol. So nothing wrong with the car

If I had to believe many others, this Mustang isn't that good engineered and very bad at high speed lol

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I've never heard anyone say mustangs don't do well at high speed. Both the S550 and S650 are as smooth at butter well above 100 MPH.

 

[glenng6]

You are literally the first American that I've seen saying this lol. So nothing wrong with the car

If I had to believe many others, this Mustang isn't that good engineered and very bad at high speed lol

Not mine! I've actually been thinking I got very lucky with my GT Vert because I don't have most of the problems written about. Excuse me while I wack myself in the head. You know, knock on wood and all that superstition! Other than my Cobra SVT gauges not showing up, occasionally. I'm golden! Glenn p.s. I'm actually a Canadian stuck here since 1958. Don't ask, it's a long story! ! Glenn

 

[GrabThatBlue]

Not mine! I've actually been thinking I got very lucky with my GT Vert because I don't have most of the problems written about. Excuse me while I wack myself in the head. You know, knock on wood and all that superstition! Other than my Cobra SVT gauges not showing up, occasionally. I'm golden! Glenn p.s. I'm actually a Canadian stuck here since 1958. Don't ask, it's a long story! ! Glenn

Man, and I was thinking there was still hope finding an American who says driving fast is comfortbale. :(

 

[npole]

I've never heard anyone say mustangs don't do well at high speed. Both the S550 and S650 are as smooth at butter well above 100 MPH.

I know it's a matter of perception or where you live/drive .. but 100MPH is a "normal" highway speed, I wouldn't consider it "high speed" (nor in the sense of where the car aero and all the related stuff will be a concern).
I can say that driving my S550, they set the limit where it should have been: 163mph ...at that speed the car start to feel not so stable to drive comfortable, it didn't had enough downforce and overall everything wasn't designed to go above that.
This is the main reason of why we have a speed limiter (despite the local law), at hi-speed (or every high speed for some ppl) it couldn't be driven with an "acceptable" level of safety.. otherwise the car (despite the poor aerodynamic) is capable of more.

 

[glenng6]

Man, and I was thinking there was still hope finding an American who says driving fast is comfortbale. :(

Close but no cigar! Glenn

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I know it's a matter of perception or where you live/drive .. but 100MPH is a "normal" highway speed, I wouldn't consider it "high speed" (nor in the sense of where the car aero and all the related stuff will be a concern).
I can say that driving my S550, they set the limit where it should have been: 163mph ...at that speed the car start to feel not so stable to drive comfortable, it didn't had enough downforce and overall everything wasn't designed to go above that.
This is the main reason of why we have a speed limiter (despite the local law), at hi-speed (or every high speed for some ppl) it couldn't be driven with an "acceptable" level of safety.. otherwise the car (despite the poor aerodynamic) is capable of more.

Where do you live that 100mph is considered normal speed? I'm jealous.

 

[npole]

Where do you live that 100mph is considered normal speed? I'm jealous.

It's common in Europe.. and I specified on "highways" (or in general out of city roads), we don't drive at 100mph within the cites.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

It's common in Europe.. and I specified on "highways" (or in general out of city roads), we don't drive at 100mph within the cites.

Well if you don't drive that fast in the cities, it can't be normal can it? I kid. I kid. I'm just jealous I have to break the law to have a good time.

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