Get More Horsepower with Steeda's Pro-Flow S650 Cold Air Intake for GT and Dark Horse!

[Hoofprint]

@tj@steeda any chance you give forum member discounts?

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[tj@steeda]

Discount code doesn't work but let me work on this for you!

 

[Mr Hyde]

The Darkhorse also has a different tune than the GT not crazy different but different enough. Also not sure about the metal tube it will probably heat soak on the road and I'm sure it will here in Florida. Its a good looking kit and looks to be a good option once tuning becomes available.

 

[robvas]

Good point about the metal intake tube and likelyhood of heat soak!

plastic will get just as hot. Throttle bodies (of which there are two) are metal.

plus aluminum loses heat really quickly unlike steel or cast iron. You can handle a cookie sheet within a couple minutes from being in a hot oven with bare hands.

besides, the air isn't in that tube long enough for it to matter.

 

[Mr Hyde]

plastic will get just as hot. Throttle bodies (of which there are two) are metal.

plus aluminum loses heat really quickly unlike steel or cast iron. You can handle a cookie sheet within a couple minutes from being in a hot oven with bare hands.

besides, the air isn't in that tube long enough for it to matter.

True. It does have outstanding thermal disapation properties. Going to see if it has an effect on temps. I live in FL. Yesterday even while highway driving the intake temps never went below triple digits. Also want non branded tube's. I also like the clean design.

 

[LETHAL]

Looks good. The machined MAF/filter connections are top notch.

Would liked to have seen a STEEDA branded lid for the air boxes, like the 3rd Gen closed lid had. Esp at the price point.

 

[Zig]

Good point about the metal intake tube and likelyhood of heat soak!

Insulate and retention is reduced

 

[tj@steeda]

Discount codes are now active if you were on the fence!

Hit me up if I can help support with an order.

Thank you,

TJ

 

[Wiley Marmot]

plastic will get just as hot. Throttle bodies (of which there are two) are metal.

plus aluminum loses heat really quickly unlike steel or cast iron. You can handle a cookie sheet within a couple minutes from being in a hot oven with bare hands.

besides, the air isn't in that tube long enough for it to matter.

"plastic will get just as hot". I guess that must be why the modern standard for military firearm forearms/hand guards is thermoset plastic and not aluminum? In any event; the Steeda tube is silicone rubber not plastic, so I'm not getting what your point is.

Yes, aluminum loses heat more quickly than some other metals. The opposite is equally true. And it's the same for cold as well. Might be one of the reasons it's favored as a beverage container material? And is freqently a component in frying pans; whereas plastic is not.

OK; you're able to handle your aluminum cookie sheet soon after removal from the oven. What does that have to do with an aluminum intake tube that's being heat soked in a hot engine compartment. Which is happening constantly during vehicle operation; it only cools when the engine compartment cools. Any cool air in the aluminum tube won't prodcue much HP or TQ then.

"besides, the air isn't in that tube long enough for it to matter." Stop! Your making my stomach hurt!

Bottom line: Your car; your money; your priorities. Whatever you put on it that you like? It's all good.

 

[robvas]

Yes, aluminum loses heat more quickly than some other metals. The opposite is equally true. And it's the same for cold as well. Might be one of the reasons it's favored as a beverage container material? And is freqently a component in frying pans; whereas plastic is not.

Intake tubes are made of plastic (I realize this one is silicone) because you can shape them however you want, unlike metal. But metal is used for intercooler piping etc which sits in the engine bay as well.

"besides, the air isn't in that tube long enough for it to matter." Stop! Your making my stomach hurt!

How long do you think it's in that tube?

Bottom line: Your car; your money; your priorities. Whatever you put on it that you like? It's all good.

Exactly. If people are dumb enough to spend $500-600 on something that will add zero power, let them!

"plastic will get just as hot". I guess that must be why the modern standard for military firearm forearms/hand guards is thermoset plastic and not aluminum?

So, if you know anything about guns you know that your engine bay isn't a fraction of the temperature of a gun barrel... Besides, plenty of handguards are made of metal. But you're touching it with your hand, not letting 700cfm of air fly by it.

How much air is 700cfm, anyway?

 

[DemonWorks]

In regards to the video stating the aluminum housings are larger than factory, is there a difference in the maf reading? I am concerned the maf reading may be skewed providing a more lean condition? It's an assumption on my part. I really like this setup, I think the molded hoses are a good choice. I also like that the door is left open for larger throttle bodies in the future.

 

[agreywolfe]

I guess that must be why the modern standard for military firearm forearms/hand guards is thermoset plastic and not aluminum?

No, that's because it's made by the lowest bidder using the cheapest materials to achieve the highest profit margin. Anyone whose fired an actual military M4 can tell you, even the plastic hand guard gets fucking hot if you grab it without your gloves on after a few rounds of BD1A.

 

[SSuperDave]

Thanks Steeda, I'm just glad that someone is making parts for these cars. I may or may not get one, but everything else I've ever gotten from Steeda has been first class. Someone once said that quality is remembered long after price is forgotten.

 

[Wiley Marmot]

No, that's because it's made by the lowest bidder using the cheapest materials to achieve the highest profit margin. Anyone whose fired an actual military M4 can tell you, even the plastic hand guard gets fucking hot if you grab it without your gloves on after a few rounds of BD1A.

You mean like the Busmaster M4 I used in Afghanistan, or the Colt M4 I was used in Iraq (Or any of the M249s, or M240s I was issued for that matter)? They all had plastic forearms, not metal.

Of course they gott hot under sustained fire, but not like a metal forearm would; which is why virtually no modern military long arms (despite Rob's unsupported claim plenty of hang guards are made of metal) use any type of metal for them. And, why metal is preferred over plastic for fry pans, cooking pots, and beverage cans. Not too mention radiator fins, oil cooler fins, and inter cooler fins (like the inter cooler on my RS). Metals simply are betterat absorbing, shedding, and especially "sharing" heat and cold.

And, despite Rob's non sequitur of intake air not being in the intake tube for long; it's just basic physics that air going through any intake tube that is hotter than an intake tube made of a different material; that air will absorb more heat. QED.

"Intake tubes are made of plastic... because you can shape them however you want, unlike metal." Let me repeat. Stop!

 

[agreywolfe]

You mean like the Busmaster M4 I used in Afghanistan, or the Colt M4 I was used in Iraq (Or any of the M249s, or M240s I was issued for that matter)? They all had plastic forearms, not metal.

My point about lowest bidder still stands though, after all I did do a deployment in Afghanistan with what can best be described as a smooth bore M4 because the army was too cheap to replace our old guns 🫠.

In all honesty though, the impact here is so minor that I don't think it really matters what you go with, if I ever decide to swap out though I'll most likely go Steeda anyway.

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