Would love feedback on the app. It says you give Ford permission to use all your personal and car data, and to sell it to others. Am I missing something there? Seems like no one would want to use the app with such an invasion of privacy, no? Does anyone have a better understanding of this?Hell yes, added my VIN to the Ford Pass app.
When it has doors, will I get notifications of it opening and closing in Michigan?
That's an interesting idea. I mean, I'd be game. But I don't think you can do it. The car hasn't been sold or associated with the future owner yet. I'd think Ford would link the car and phone/person after the sale? Otherwise, thieves could be using the app, searching and lurking for specific vehicles to boost. @Ford Motor Company ?
Thank you @Skye! That's great detail. What Bikeman315 posted (I think) is the agreement from the app that says exactly what I raised a concern about. If Ford doesn't use the data in the way they require us to agree, but require agreement for purposes that are legitimately in our interests, then I'd be fine with it. Lots of legalese is written that way. But if Ford wants us to sign away our driving data and personal data to anyone they can make a buck from, that should scare everyone. It is discoverable and could be used in ways most people never imagined. I'd like to assume the former and trust Ford. Your experience, Skye, certainly seems to align.
I have had the app since 2021 when I took delivery of my bronco. I like the app and it has a lot of features that @Skye went over. Another thing I like is when the bronco was getting wrapped for ~10 days or when I'm out of town, I can check to see where the vehicle is at and what the odometer reads.
Unquestionably the baseline for giving up all privacy.
That's what they promise, and I'm sure they deliver too. Appreciate the sense of humor. And appreciate the vote of confidence. I agree it would be great to know where my car is at all times. Listening to you guys, I'm probably going to take the dive.
Based on this, first mod will be de-activating the power to the cell modem in my car. For sure.Read this carefully. I you have any issues with it simply do not use it. Personally I do not give a sh-t and do have and use it.
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2. Privacy Policy
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FordPass Mobile App
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We collect the following types of information through your use of FordPass or third-party services that integrate with FordPass:
Connected Vehicle Information collected through your use of FordPass or third-party services that integrate with FordPass may be associated with a vehicle’s unique identification number (“vehicle identification number” or “VIN”) or other identifiers, and those identifiers may be linked to you.
- Information you provide to create an account, sign in to an existing account, or use available services such as name, email address, photo, street address, telephone number, credit card, Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), and vehicle service records. You must have an account to use FordPass mobile app and to access certain functionality on the FordPass website.
- Depending on the vehicle’s equipment, the services/features available in the vehicle, and the settings applicable to those services/features, Connected Vehicle Information including:
- Vehicle Location: Non-precise or precise location/GPS information, including current vehicle location, travel direction, speed, charging locations used (if applicable), and information about the environment where the vehicle is operated (such as weather, road segment data, trail and road surface conditions and geometry, traffic signs, and other surroundings, may be collected from the vehicle in connection with location-based functions of FordPass. Vehicle Location may also be derived from IP address.
- Driving Data (may also be referred to as Driving Characteristics and Behavior): Information about how the vehicle is operated and used (such as speed, use of accelerator, brakes, steering, seat belts, etc.).
- Vehicle Data (may also be referred to as Vehicle Information): Information about the vehicle, its components and parts, including their status and performance and diagnostics of vehicle systems (such as the VIN, hardware model and part numbers, odometer, tire pressure, fuel and fluid levels, battery and lock status, trouble codes, warning indicators, alerts, and SYNC diagnostics), vehicle charging information (if applicable), and other information about how the vehicle is performing.
- Audio/Visual (may also be referred to as Connected Voice Data, Digital Assistant, or Ford Assistant): Voice commands and other utterances captured when the vehicle’s voice recognition system is in “active listen” state.
We may collect Connected Vehicle Information from the vehicle in de-identified form, such that the information cannot reasonably be linked back to you. We may also de-identify Connected Vehicle Information and use it for any purpose in accordance with applicable law.
Certain “Connected Services” (which are services that use Connected Vehicle Information) require connection between your account and the vehicle’s FordPass Connect modem using the FordPass app.
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- Mobile Device Location: Precise location information is collected from your mobile device in connection with location-based functions of FordPass. This information includes Global Positioning System (GPS) data and location derived from IP address. This information can be used to determine your device’s current location, travel direction and speed. If you have enabled location services on your device, this data may be collected when the app is running in the foreground or background. We may also derive your approximate location from other device data such as Wi-Fi access points, cell towers, and your IP address, whether location services are on or turned off, through the permission system used by your mobile operating system.
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- Information about how you use FordPass or third-party services that integrate with FordPass, such as when and for how long you use features and when you contact us, a record of your communication.
- FordPass may also use tracking technologies that collect information about how FordPass is used and how it is performing including if it crashes, and which may be able to be connected across devices and over time. These may include cookies (small files that are stored on your computer or device), pixels or web beacons (small pieces of code placed on web pages and content that communicate when the page or content has been viewed), log data (logs created that include IP address, date and time of activity, and the website or location that referred you to FordPass), or third-party analytics tools, such as Adobe Analytics, Aptelligent, and DynaTrace). Some of these technologies can be limited or deactivated through your browser or device settings, but some cannot. FordPass does not respond to “Do-Not-Track” requests.
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- The first name associated with your FordPass account may be shared with other FordPass account holders, for example, when you request access to other FordPass account holders’ vehicles.
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Thier tracking is different from the app. It’s more of a form that gets updated as it goes through the different stages of production and doesn’t quite say location to a T. I attatched what mine looked like as my GT went through the process.
