Anyone regrats their DH purchase?

[ShadowCoyote]

this is not intended as a jab so please take this easy. i feel like the biggest feature on the premium is the ventilated seats. not in a million years would i pay for memory electric ventilated seats, then pay more to delete them. the aluminum pedals and garage door opener are cool, but not my deciding factor.

ventilated seats just seem gimmicky to me much like wireless charging. I have yet to get in a car where the ventilated seats made a significant difference. Heated seats are nice for my back but I’ve tested cooled seats on a lot of cars and it’s a wack feature imo.

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[keithwalton]

Yup, as much as i've tried to bond with the car it just hasn't happened.

Wish i'd had chance to test drive one before i brought it, but when it took nearly 8 months between ordering and delivering and my car was the first to arrive even before the dealer demo my mind was set.

Didn't drive it much over the winter for obvious reasons and when i did give it the beans the backend would step out at random in a straight line, hardly confidence inspiring that it'll be planted in the bends. It was already cold / wet weather by the time it got to 1k miles.

Every morning i have the decision which car should i take to work today and it should be 'i'll take the mustang thats a fun car i enjoy driving' and i'd drive it up to my agreed mileage.

Instead it only gets used when i think i suppose i should take the mustang today i haven't used it yet this week (and it's friday)

I had similar experience with the M5 in the end which is why i ended up selling it.

In 7 1/2 months i've done a little over 2000 miles, it's financed at 9k / year for 3 years (to increase payments / reduce interest accumulated) and insured for 6k/year this year.

Main complaint would be it doesn't feel as fast as it should be, throttle response in normal mode is ok, sport is a little better but not as big of a step as i'd of wanted and in track mode its terrible to the point i think it's bugged / faulty / mapped wrong.

I did a little test the other week on a flat straight piece of road.
Was doing 60mph in sixth, holding the pedal as steady as i could to maintain speed in normal mode.
Manifold vacuum was around 400.

Without changing pedal position i switched to sport mode. vaccum dropped to 300 and the car picked up and happily pulled to 70mph.
Switched it back to normal and it slowed back down to 60 and stayed there, all good.

Then i switched it to track mode, vacuum went up to 450 and the car slowed down to around 50mph ... put it back to normal mode and it pulled back up to 60 again ...
Tried drag mode, same thing car slowed down.
Tried wet / slippery car behaved the same as track mode.

So for some reason the track mode throttle map on my car is the same as wet / slippery mode. Aka damped soggy and unresponsive. Not the snappy eager to pull away that you'd normally expect from a 'sport+' mode.

I was expecting the mustang to be a bit of a thoroughbred beast that requires a bit of taming to get the most out of it but was predictable, rewarding and fun to drive.

Instead it's a bucking bronco that's a bit lame but will at random without warning try and put you in the hedge.

The best thing about the car is the noise, however it spends 95% of it's time in quiet mode. Only going into sport exhaust for 20mph zones to alert pedestrians to it's presence of course.

 

[Hawky]

Yup, as much as i've tried to bond with the car it just hasn't happened.

Wish i'd had chance to test drive one before i brought it, but when it took nearly 8 months between ordering and delivering and my car was the first to arrive even before the dealer demo my mind was set.

Didn't drive it much over the winter for obvious reasons and when i did give it the beans the backend would step out at random in a straight line, hardly confidence inspiring that it'll be planted in the bends. It was already cold / wet weather by the time it got to 1k miles.

Every morning i have the decision which car should i take to work today and it should be 'i'll take the mustang thats a fun car i enjoy driving' and i'd drive it up to my agreed mileage.

Instead it only gets used when i think i suppose i should take the mustang today i haven't used it yet this week (and it's friday)

I had similar experience with the M5 in the end which is why i ended up selling it.

In 7 1/2 months i've done a little over 2000 miles, it's financed at 9k / year for 3 years (to increase payments / reduce interest accumulated) and insured for 6k/year this year.

Main complaint would be it doesn't feel as fast as it should be, throttle response in normal mode is ok, sport is a little better but not as big of a step as i'd of wanted and in track mode its terrible to the point i think it's bugged / faulty / mapped wrong.

I did a little test the other week on a flat straight piece of road.
Was doing 60mph in sixth, holding the pedal as steady as i could to maintain speed in normal mode.
Manifold vacuum was around 400.

Without changing pedal position i switched to sport mode. vaccum dropped to 300 and the car picked up and happily pulled to 70mph.
Switched it back to normal and it slowed back down to 60 and stayed there, all good.

Then i switched it to track mode, vacuum went up to 450 and the car slowed down to around 50mph ... put it back to normal mode and it pulled back up to 60 again ...
Tried drag mode, same thing car slowed down.
Tried wet / slippery car behaved the same as track mode.

So for some reason the track mode throttle map on my car is the same as wet / slippery mode. Aka damped soggy and unresponsive. Not the snappy eager to pull away that you'd normally expect from a 'sport+' mode.

I was expecting the mustang to be a bit of a thoroughbred beast that requires a bit of taming to get the most out of it but was predictable, rewarding and fun to drive.

Instead it's a bucking bronco that's a bit lame but will at random without warning try and put you in the hedge.

The best thing about the car is the noise, however it spends 95% of it's time in quiet mode. Only going into sport exhaust for 20mph zones to alert pedestrians to it's presence of course.

This is correct for the track mode, because on track you either slowing down or accelerating, so the mapping is steep, up to 80% of the throttle you get almost no power at all and above that is 100%. Sport mode is what you are looking for.

Sad to hear you're not happy with the purchase.

 

[Ewags81]

So for some reason the track mode throttle map on my car is the same as wet / slippery mode. Aka damped soggy and unresponsive. Not the snappy eager to pull away that you'd normally expect from a 'sport+' mode.

I 100% agree with the throttle mapping problem on this car. I understand from other posts that track throttle is more linear and you get more towards the top. I wish there was a compromise between sport and track. really just at the beginning of the pedal. and then if it would even out at about 25 to 40% and go sport the rest of the way. I feel like there's a huge difference from sport to everything else. but I don't like driving around town in sport due to what feels like an unpredictability on the low end while shifting at low RPMs.
I do not regrat the ventilated seats. they push a fair amount of air and keep that butt sweat out of the seats

 

[Ewags81]

also I do agree that this car will only go as fast as it wants. sometimes seems quicker, sometimes it seems like it's holding back. but it never feels as fast as you're going. it's kind of refined power but there's like a little guardian angel that sometimes says "nah not right now"

 

[Gregs24]

Paid BMW M2 money for Ford. And it is showing. Lots of vegan leather in the interior.

BMW M2 has Sensatec = Vegan leather!

 

[hoodscoops]

Yup, as much as i've tried to bond with the car it just hasn't happened.

Wish i'd had chance to test drive one before i brought it, but when it took nearly 8 months between ordering and delivering and my car was the first to arrive even before the dealer demo my mind was set.

Didn't drive it much over the winter for obvious reasons and when i did give it the beans the backend would step out at random in a straight line, hardly confidence inspiring that it'll be planted in the bends. It was already cold / wet weather by the time it got to 1k miles.

Every morning i have the decision which car should i take to work today and it should be 'i'll take the mustang thats a fun car i enjoy driving' and i'd drive it up to my agreed mileage.

Instead it only gets used when i think i suppose i should take the mustang today i haven't used it yet this week (and it's friday)

I had similar experience with the M5 in the end which is why i ended up selling it.

In 7 1/2 months i've done a little over 2000 miles, it's financed at 9k / year for 3 years (to increase payments / reduce interest accumulated) and insured for 6k/year this year.

Main complaint would be it doesn't feel as fast as it should be, throttle response in normal mode is ok, sport is a little better but not as big of a step as i'd of wanted and in track mode its terrible to the point i think it's bugged / faulty / mapped wrong.

I did a little test the other week on a flat straight piece of road.
Was doing 60mph in sixth, holding the pedal as steady as i could to maintain speed in normal mode.
Manifold vacuum was around 400.

Without changing pedal position i switched to sport mode. vaccum dropped to 300 and the car picked up and happily pulled to 70mph.
Switched it back to normal and it slowed back down to 60 and stayed there, all good.

Then i switched it to track mode, vacuum went up to 450 and the car slowed down to around 50mph ... put it back to normal mode and it pulled back up to 60 again ...
Tried drag mode, same thing car slowed down.
Tried wet / slippery car behaved the same as track mode.

So for some reason the track mode throttle map on my car is the same as wet / slippery mode. Aka damped soggy and unresponsive. Not the snappy eager to pull away that you'd normally expect from a 'sport+' mode.

I was expecting the mustang to be a bit of a thoroughbred beast that requires a bit of taming to get the most out of it but was predictable, rewarding and fun to drive.

Instead it's a bucking bronco that's a bit lame but will at random without warning try and put you in the hedge.

The best thing about the car is the noise, however it spends 95% of it's time in quiet mode. Only going into sport exhaust for 20mph zones to alert pedestrians to it's presence of course.

So when are you going to trade it in for an M2?

 

[Klipshpoke]

also I do agree that this car will only go as fast as it wants. sometimes seems quicker, sometimes it seems like it's holding back. but it never feels as fast as you're going. it's kind of refined power but there's like a little guardian angel that sometimes says "nah not right now"

Are you making sure to turn traction control off.

Both coyotes I’ve owned had the tendency to wake up with different attitudes depending of fuel and weather.

 

[Gregs24]

Yup, as much as i've tried to bond with the car it just hasn't happened.

Wish i'd had chance to test drive one before i brought it, but when it took nearly 8 months between ordering and delivering and my car was the first to arrive even before the dealer demo my mind was set.

Didn't drive it much over the winter for obvious reasons and when i did give it the beans the backend would step out at random in a straight line, hardly confidence inspiring that it'll be planted in the bends. It was already cold / wet weather by the time it got to 1k miles.

Every morning i have the decision which car should i take to work today and it should be 'i'll take the mustang thats a fun car i enjoy driving' and i'd drive it up to my agreed mileage.

Instead it only gets used when i think i suppose i should take the mustang today i haven't used it yet this week (and it's friday)

I had similar experience with the M5 in the end which is why i ended up selling it.

In 7 1/2 months i've done a little over 2000 miles, it's financed at 9k / year for 3 years (to increase payments / reduce interest accumulated) and insured for 6k/year this year.

Main complaint would be it doesn't feel as fast as it should be, throttle response in normal mode is ok, sport is a little better but not as big of a step as i'd of wanted and in track mode its terrible to the point i think it's bugged / faulty / mapped wrong.

I did a little test the other week on a flat straight piece of road.
Was doing 60mph in sixth, holding the pedal as steady as i could to maintain speed in normal mode.
Manifold vacuum was around 400.

Without changing pedal position i switched to sport mode. vaccum dropped to 300 and the car picked up and happily pulled to 70mph.
Switched it back to normal and it slowed back down to 60 and stayed there, all good.

Then i switched it to track mode, vacuum went up to 450 and the car slowed down to around 50mph ... put it back to normal mode and it pulled back up to 60 again ...
Tried drag mode, same thing car slowed down.
Tried wet / slippery car behaved the same as track mode.

So for some reason the track mode throttle map on my car is the same as wet / slippery mode. Aka damped soggy and unresponsive. Not the snappy eager to pull away that you'd normally expect from a 'sport+' mode.

I was expecting the mustang to be a bit of a thoroughbred beast that requires a bit of taming to get the most out of it but was predictable, rewarding and fun to drive.

Instead it's a bucking bronco that's a bit lame but will at random without warning try and put you in the hedge.

The best thing about the car is the noise, however it spends 95% of it's time in quiet mode. Only going into sport exhaust for 20mph zones to alert pedestrians to it's presence of course.

I think people have forgotten how NA engines respond compared to turbos and superchargers. Torque comes much higher in the rev range and more progressively than a turbo wallop.

I drove an S197 recently - that would keep you awake at night on its crappy 235 rear tyres!

 

[young at heart]

Yup, as much as i've tried to bond with the car it just hasn't happened.

Wish i'd had chance to test drive one before i brought it, but when it took nearly 8 months between ordering and delivering and my car was the first to arrive even before the dealer demo my mind was set.

Didn't drive it much over the winter for obvious reasons and when i did give it the beans the backend would step out at random in a straight line, hardly confidence inspiring that it'll be planted in the bends. It was already cold / wet weather by the time it got to 1k miles.

Every morning i have the decision which car should i take to work today and it should be 'i'll take the mustang thats a fun car i enjoy driving' and i'd drive it up to my agreed mileage.

Instead it only gets used when i think i suppose i should take the mustang today i haven't used it yet this week (and it's friday)

I had similar experience with the M5 in the end which is why i ended up selling it.

In 7 1/2 months i've done a little over 2000 miles, it's financed at 9k / year for 3 years (to increase payments / reduce interest accumulated) and insured for 6k/year this year.

Main complaint would be it doesn't feel as fast as it should be, throttle response in normal mode is ok, sport is a little better but not as big of a step as i'd of wanted and in track mode its terrible to the point i think it's bugged / faulty / mapped wrong.

I did a little test the other week on a flat straight piece of road.
Was doing 60mph in sixth, holding the pedal as steady as i could to maintain speed in normal mode.
Manifold vacuum was around 400.

Without changing pedal position i switched to sport mode. vaccum dropped to 300 and the car picked up and happily pulled to 70mph.
Switched it back to normal and it slowed back down to 60 and stayed there, all good.

Then i switched it to track mode, vacuum went up to 450 and the car slowed down to around 50mph ... put it back to normal mode and it pulled back up to 60 again ...
Tried drag mode, same thing car slowed down.
Tried wet / slippery car behaved the same as track mode.

So for some reason the track mode throttle map on my car is the same as wet / slippery mode. Aka damped soggy and unresponsive. Not the snappy eager to pull away that you'd normally expect from a 'sport+' mode.

I was expecting the mustang to be a bit of a thoroughbred beast that requires a bit of taming to get the most out of it but was predictable, rewarding and fun to drive.

Instead it's a bucking bronco that's a bit lame but will at random without warning try and put you in the hedge.

The best thing about the car is the noise, however it spends 95% of it's time in quiet mode. Only going into sport exhaust for 20mph zones to alert pedestrians to it's presence of course.

You guys crack me up.

I’m gonna try not to be offensive here, so keep that in mind when reading this. But it’s difficult to say what I think needs to be said without being a bit blunt.

First off, if it’s broke then get it fixed.

This is a drivers’s car, meant to be told firmly what to do without parsing every nuance of throttle response in one mode or another. Put the darn thing in track mode and leave it there. Modulate the throttle a bit if a LEO gets right behind you but otherwise leave it alone.

Vacuum readings? Vacuum readings? Are you kidding? I swear I was largely unaware my DHs even have a vacuum gauge! Under everyday circumstances I’d say it’s just there for the coolness factor. About as useful as mammary glands on a boar hog. Come on…

They‘re y’all’s cars and money, so do as you see fit. But I honestly think a lot of folks would be better off selling the DH and getting a regular GT that they could just lollygag around in but still look and sound good. Or alternatively give your DH the beans at every opportunity instead of droning on about how bad it is and what you don’t like about it.

Just one hard core old timer’s opinion and worth exactly what you just paid me for it.

 

[Gregs24]

You guys crack me up.

I’m gonna try not to be offensive here, so keep that in mind when reading this. But it’s difficult to say what I think needs to be said without being a bit blunt.

First off, if it’s broke then get it fixed.

This is a drivers’s car, meant to be told firmly what to do without parsing every nuance of throttle response in one mode or another. Put the darn thing in track mode and leave it there. Modulate the throttle a bit if a LEO gets right behind you but otherwise leave it alone.

Vacuum readings? Vacuum readings? Are you kidding? I swear I was largely unaware my DHs even have a vacuum gauge! Under everyday circumstances I’d say it’s just there for the coolness factor. About as useful as mammary glands on a boar hog. Come on…

They‘re y’all’s cars and money, so do as you see fit. But I honestly think a lot of folks would be better off selling the DH and getting a regular GT that they could just lollygag around in but still look and sound good. Or alternatively give your DH the beans at every opportunity instead of droning on about how bad it is and what you don’t like about it.

Just one hard core old timer’s opinion and worth exactly what you just paid me for it.

In the UK the DH and GT have effectively the same power output

 

[A10devil]

You guys crack me up.

I’m gonna try not to be offensive here, so keep that in mind when reading this. But it’s difficult to say what I think needs to be said without being a bit blunt.

First off, if it’s broke then get it fixed.

This is a drivers’s car, meant to be told firmly what to do without parsing every nuance of throttle response in one mode or another. Put the darn thing in track mode and leave it there. Modulate the throttle a bit if a LEO gets right behind you but otherwise leave it alone.

Vacuum readings? Vacuum readings? Are you kidding? I swear I was largely unaware my DHs even have a vacuum gauge! Under everyday circumstances I’d say it’s just there for the coolness factor. About as useful as mammary glands on a boar hog. Come on…

They‘re y’all’s cars and money, so do as you see fit. But I honestly think a lot of folks would be better off selling the DH and getting a regular GT that they could just lollygag around in but still look and sound good. Or alternatively give your DH the beans at every opportunity instead of droning on about how bad it is and what you don’t like about it.

Just one hard core old timer’s opinion and worth exactly what you just paid me for it.

Always love the "not going to be offensive" start but finishes with "sell the car...stop droning on about how bad x is..." Dude gave a thorough reply to the question.

 

[young at heart]

Always love the "not going to be offensive" start but finishes with "sell the car...stop droning on about how bad x is..." Dude gave a thorough reply to the question.

Didn‘t say “not going to be”; said I was going “to try not to be”.

And yes, if I had to elucidate how much something bothered me to that extent, I’d sure sell it. Only makes sense to get something out of your life that bugs you that much.

I personally don’t really like the tablets/screens instead of traditional gauges and controls. But the topic has been beaten to death and I’ve made peace with it as a reasonable trade off for those things I love about the car. Besides, complaining isn’t gonna help anyway.

 

[mwbgxp]

I will take some pictures of the new, painted Ducktail spoiler his weekend and post them.

Attached are 8 pictures of my 2025 Vapor Blue Dark Horse w/o Handling Package. It was ordered with the "Hood Stripe Delete". I installed the Anderson Composites Carbon Fiber Integrated Rear Ducktail Spoiler painted to match the body color. I had the door side mirror caps painted in body color. The Anderson Composite Integrated Spoiler fit better than the factory rear trunk lid component supporting the factory wing spoiler.

 

[young at heart]

Attached are 8 pictures of my 2025 Vapor Blue Dark Horse w/o Handling Package. It was ordered with the "Hood Stripe Delete". I installed the Anderson Composites Carbon Fiber Integrated Rear Ducktail Spoiler painted to match the body color. I had the door side mirror caps painted in body color. The Anderson Composite Integrated Spoiler fit better than the factory rear trunk lid component supporting the factory wing spoiler.

Seemingly small changes but make a whole lot of difference when you see them.

Beautiful and very tasteful!

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