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Yeah, nothing for the 2024. Either a mistake or they finally figured no one followed it and it isn't needed anymore on certain vehicles.



I always use a catch can on most of my vehicles I plan to drive hard. I have used the Ford catch can on my 2016 GT and liked how factory it looked and well it worked. Will be adding one to this car too.
Do you really need 2 catch can? I only had the passenger side catch can from Ford performance for my S550 GT. Thinking about adding it to my 650.
 

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Does anyone else find it to be bullshit when we buy cars with MSRP's upwards of $50K and it doesn't COME WITH a PRINTED owner's manual?

Having one online or in the car's "computerized dashboard" is fine but I want to sit down and be able to read mine (yes, I read them), at my leisure and not on a damned computer.

I think Ford dropped the ball on this one.
 

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Does anyone else find it to be bullshit when we buy cars with MSRP's upwards of $50K and it doesn't COME WITH a PRINTED owner's manual?

Having one online or in the car's "computerized dashboard" is fine but I want to sit down and be able to read mine (yes, I read them), at my leisure and not on a damned computer.

I think Ford dropped the ball on this one.
While my wife's 24 VW Atlas did come with a printed manual, there is no downloadable PDF file only VW sites where you have to login, then enter VIN and so forth and it's a royal PITA.
 


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OVER $50K MSRP and NO printed owner's manual. I will hold that against Ford from now on. Where the hell is their head??

I don't know how they expect repeat business with this ambiguity going on. Go price a Ford catch can as they are ambiguous about that too. Then price 3rd party catch cans.

Ford is checked out from their customers but happy to take their money. Damned if I'm buying one from eBay from somebody I don't know!
 

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A lot of products today don't have instruction manuals, they have either QR codes or a web address to take you to their site for info. Appears to be the way of the future and I suppose....it saves a few trees.
 

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A lot of products today don't have instruction manuals, they have either QR codes or a web address to take you to their site for info. Appears to be the way of the future and I suppose....it saves a few trees.
You're right but that doesn't make it right.
 
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OVER $50K MSRP and NO printed owner's manual. I will hold that against Ford from now on. Where the hell is their head??

I don't know how they expect repeat business with this ambiguity going on. Go price a Ford catch can as they are ambiguous about that too. Then price 3rd party catch cans.

Ford is checked out from their customers but happy to take their money. Damned if I'm buying one from eBay from somebody I don't know!
allow me to give some insight from (sort of) the inside. Ford is currently in some sort of cost-cutting mode it seems, and a rather aggressive one at that. Mustangs no longer have owner's manual pouches. F-150, Bronco, and Ranger Raptors no longer have "Raptor" keyfob backs. Explorer STs no longer have "ST" keyfob backs. buttons are being consolidated into less parts. modules are being removed and their features pushed onto other existing modules. more things being made standard to reduce the amount of parts. prices going way up and up.

plus, Ford is frequently changing what parts need a prior approval from Ford themselves to be replaced under warranty. a couple of guys at the dealership and i were actually talking today about how we noticed that Ford's quality has gone way down recently, and they are getting super stingy with warranty repairs. and this isn't from some people with 2 or 3 years experience with Ford, basically everyone in the room besides me had 25+ years of Ford experience
 

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allow me to give some insight from (sort of) the inside. Ford is currently in some sort of cost-cutting mode it seems, and a rather aggressive one at that. Mustangs no longer have owner's manual pouches. F-150, Bronco, and Ranger Raptors no longer have "Raptor" keyfob backs. Explorer STs no longer have "ST" keyfob backs. buttons are being consolidated into less parts. modules are being removed and their features pushed onto other existing modules. more things being made standard to reduce the amount of parts. prices going way up and up.

plus, Ford is frequently changing what parts need a prior approval from Ford themselves to be replaced under warranty. a couple of guys at the dealership and i were actually talking today about how we noticed that Ford's quality has gone way down recently, and they are getting super stingy with warranty repairs. and this isn't from some people with 2 or 3 years experience with Ford, basically everyone in the room besides me had 25+ years of Ford experience
When one needs the user manual to access the user manual it’s kinda redundantly reductive.

print an insert to show them how to access the computer in order to access the (digitally) printed material, which may or may not be out-of-date.

Go ahead try to read the owners manual while in the vehicle and in accessory mode.
 

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A lot of products today don't have instruction manuals, they have either QR codes or a web address to take you to their site for info. Appears to be the way of the future and I suppose....it saves a few trees.
QR codes have a ‘permission’ problem, since indecipherable by humans the user (victim) has no idea what they are ‘agreeing to’ when accessing said ‘link’ (instruction set).
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