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  1. (Help) First time ordering a car through a dealership…

    Welcome to the forums. :clap: Inputting the order itself is a straightforward process which takes little time. Once the Order Guide is published, all the options and their codes will be available. Using the Web Order Entry system, the dealer can place an order; the salesperson will then have...
  2. Mustang EV Coupe Concept Thread

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/tap-us-government-billions-tesla-must-unlock-ev-chargers-2023-02-10/ This article came out today on that very topic. I've read of the credits on occasion. I'm left with the impression that, qualifying for and receiving the maximum credit allowed is not as...
  3. 2024 Mustang Dark Horse PRICING Leaked: $57,970 Base MSRP đź’µ

    It will vary by location. The final price can often be steeper than anticipated. Base Price (MSRP. But with dealer, economy and negotiations, this can vary, +/- .) Options Gas Guzzler Tax (listed under "Options") Destination/Delivery Administrative Fees (varies by dealer) Sales Tax (varies by...
  4. 2024 Mustang Dark Horse PRICING Leaked: $57,970 Base MSRP đź’µ

    IMO, Tesla's discounts (and the others which followed suite) are something of a one-off or unique. Times past, Tesla had the EV market to themselves; now, ever major manufacturer is producing them. Tesla's, while well-received, are getting rarer and more expensive; people were buying and...
  5. For those upset with the new design… at least it doesn't look like new BMW M2

    https://www.themanual.com/auto/bmw-heated-seats-subscription-rules-clarified/ I'm not familiar with what all manufacturers are experimenting with the concept of features by subscription. I think the concept is cheap. "Congratulations on your new car! But ya know, for the days you want to head...
  6. Hmmm…wonder how this will play out?

    I don't think it matters what the product is. This topic is akin to securing a domain name. There's the one name or term which we know, and countless variations other people or companies use. Ford applied for the term "Mustang Dark Horse", which is more specific than "Dark Horse". Note the...
  7. Hmmm…wonder how this will play out?

    https://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=4808:3yh9kw.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl~:=PARA1$LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=mustang+dark+horse&p_tagrepl~:=PARA2$COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Qu...
  8. Hmmm…wonder how this will play out?

    I'm reading on-line that Ford has trademarked the "Dark Horse" term. https://www.motor1.com/news/595480/ford-trademarks-mustang-dark-horse/#:~:text=It%20ran%20from%20June%201,its%20bases%20with%20this%20trim. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1136278_ford-mustang-dark-horse-trademarked
  9. 2% under invoice on 2025 Ford Mustangs @ Granger Ford!

    When considering an out-of-state purchase, I e-mailed the CO DMV for insight on any number of topics; they were very helpful, provided me with a guide, forms and contacts. If you haven't already, chat up you DMV; they might have knowledge which can make the process easier still. Best Wishes on...
  10. Start of 2024MY Mustang production is 4/11/23. Order banks open 1/14/23. Scheduling begins 3/11/23 (per Donlan and Element Fleet Forecasts)

    While it is possible that, with a new mark coming, the configurator might be updated. But based on past performance (last three years at least), I doubt it. Ford's configurator for the MY24 Mustang will most likely be late, with inconsistencies and errors. Ford doesn't allocate proper resources...
  11. Years financing a S650

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/04/share-of-car-buyers-with-monthly-payments-over-1000-hits-record-high.html I was taken aback by the idea of a $1000+ car payment.
  12. Custom Colors?

    https://performance.ford.com/enthusiasts/newsroom/2020/02/mystichrome-ford-gt.html https://www.motor1.com/news/389827/ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-production/ Custom colors are not an option. Ford produces up to 1,000+ Mustangs a day. Keeping the system running as quickly and smoothly as possible...
  13. S650's direct competition?

    The economy in general and the used car market in particular. If there is a weak economy or recession in 2023, the used car market could offer compelling buys, affording a great performance experience for the price.
  14. Years financing a S650

    Along with Credit Unions, I'd also check with your current bank and insurance company. As an existing customer, they might offer rates or terms which are favorable.
  15. Years financing a S650

    During MY22, while Ford made financing or cash-back incentives for some models, GT500s and Mach 1s were often excluded from these promotions. While the Ford promotion mentioned could be valid across any and all dealers, anything else, interest rates or terms for a DH, could be left to that...
  16. Years financing a S650

    That's unfortunate. I'd like to think it could be a teachable moment, helping to prevent a lifetime of continuing to do the same. The cumulative effects of even little gains or losses over a timeline of decades can be massive.
  17. Years financing a S650

    I don't believe a general question like that can be answered. Each individual will have their own series of variables (interest rate, closing costs, purchase price, money down, length of loan, contract rules, depreciation, maintenance, insurance, etc.) to name just a few. One variable I think I...
  18. 2024 Mustang (S650) Specs Sheet / Technical Data

    The Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) has created a series of standards which can be applied to any vehicle to measure certain dimensions and volumes. Reference to the standard: https://www.sae.org/standards/content/j1100_200911/ A previous version, which has since been superseded...
  19. Red & Black Stripes Spied on Carbonized Gray 2024 Mustang GT w/Bronze Appearance Package

    One aspect of this car in-particular I feel that's hurting it: the car is a sea of grays and dark colors. Visually, contrast is welcome when different colors are physically next to one another. Regarding the stripes for any example, we had some fantastic renderings early on. I'd like to see 1)...
  20. Would you pay over MSRP to get in an S650?

    The thought of sitting down with someone and negotiating a deal was a big negative for me. That, coupled with my less than stellar people or bargaining skills would have put me at a disadvantage. I placed an order through Ford's site, which routed it to Internet sales at the closest dealer...





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