10r80 harsh shifts on track

[AZ_Ryan]

Agreed about using track mode. The shifts are much better than sport mode.

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[Junkyard Dog]

2. Make sure transmission is up to operating temperature (close to 200) before pushing it. Mine shifts much more harshly when the fluid is not up to temperature.

I'll have to pay attention next time I am on track but my transmission never hits 200 on the streets/highways. I would probably have to "push it" on track just to get it up to and over 200.

I am pretty sure your transmission has the same cooler mine does.

 

[krisk]

I'll have to pay attention next time I am on track but my transmission never hits 200 on the streets/highways. I would probably have to "push it" on track just to get it up to and over 200.

I am pretty sure your transmission has the same cooler mine does.

I believe the PP has the same trans cooler as the DH. Mine is usually between 210-220 on track. It has gone over 220 when using auto mode. I’d have to look back at my previous posts, but I think it was over 230 one time at Roebling. That helped me decide to use manual mode. Just warming up and not pushing it’s often between 190-200.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

but I think it was over 230 one time at Roebling. That helped me decide to use manual mode

Because manual mode keeps the trans cooler or some other reason?

 

[krisk]

Because manual mode keeps the trans cooler or some other reason?

It shifts a lot more in auto mode, which seems to increase the temps.

 

[MustangNoob]

Having the trany in auto during a track day is just horrible...it will overheat before even touching finish the first lap. it is also really annoying downshifting all the time

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Having the trany in auto during a track day is just horrible...it will overheat before even touching finish the first lap. it is also really annoying downshifting all the time

Thats a pretty bold and dare I say ridiculous statement.

 

[MustangNoob]

Thats a pretty bold and dare I say ridiculous statement.

have you ever tracked the car?

 

[AZ_Ryan]

have you ever tracked the car?

Have you? If so, whats the spec on your car that this happend on.

 

[ZXMustang]

Depending on how early of a 24 you have, I found the early cars have real harsh shift modulation vs the later 24s and then the 25/26 cars are WAY better on part and heavy throttle shifting with all the newer tq modulation settings. Any time I tune one of the older 24's, I always transplant in all the 2026 trans data and start from there with my trans tuning. Its WORLDS better. I just had to do this for someone from another tuner. They were thinking their current tuner was just bad, but we found they had one of the older trans tune calibrations from OEM. Moved all the 2026 data to their stock tune and did a fresh performance tune with the new trans and they were ecstatic with the results.

I really think 90% of people's issues with the 10R80 are either trans adaptive related or related to the older calibrations. Ford has a few generations of calibrations since 2024 and the 26 cars are by far the best. Even comparing my 25 to my 26, there are a load of changes that seem to be in an effort to smooth out part and heavy throttle shifting - NOT wide open throttle tho. Thats all pretty standard across the years. Just that low to mid/heavy load/throttle zones where the car is trying to hold the power, but not trying to slam gears up and down.

 

[krisk]

Depending on how early of a 24 you have, I found the early cars have real harsh shift modulation vs the later 24s and then the 25/26 cars are WAY better on part and heavy throttle shifting with all the newer tq modulation settings. Any time I tune one of the older 24's, I always transplant in all the 2026 trans data and start from there with my trans tuning. Its WORLDS better. I just had to do this for someone from another tuner. They were thinking their current tuner was just bad, but we found they had one of the older trans tune calibrations from OEM. Moved all the 2026 data to their stock tune and did a fresh performance tune with the new trans and they were ecstatic with the results.

I really think 90% of people's issues with the 10R80 are either trans adaptive related or related to the older calibrations. Ford has a few generations of calibrations since 2024 and the 26 cars are by far the best. Even comparing my 25 to my 26, there are a load of changes that seem to be in an effort to smooth out part and heavy throttle shifting - NOT wide open throttle tho. Thats all pretty standard across the years. Just that low to mid/heavy load/throttle zones where the car is trying to hold the power, but not trying to slam gears up and down.

Is there a way to copy the newer calibrations from the 2026 to an earlier model through Forscan, or is it only an option if you are tuning? I have one of the very early 2024 cars, and I've not noticed any significant issues on track, but just wondering.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Having the trany in auto during a track day is just horrible...it will overheat before even touching finish the first lap. it is also really annoying downshifting all the time

June in Georgia did not have this result for me. All day long, five sessions, Road Atlanta, nothing overheated. I did not, however, actually look at my transmission temperature, so that is all I can say about it.

 

[Junkyard Dog]

It shifts a lot more in auto mode, which seems to increase the temps.

Did it overheat before you finished the first lap, as MustangNoob experienced (or at least I think he is saying that is what he experienced)?

 

[Junkyard Dog]

Depending on how early of a 24 you have, I found the early cars have real harsh shift modulation vs the later 24s and then the 25/26 cars are WAY better on part and heavy throttle shifting with all the newer tq modulation settings. Any time I tune one of the older 24's, I always transplant in all the 2026 trans data and start from there with my trans tuning. Its WORLDS better. I just had to do this for someone from another tuner. They were thinking their current tuner was just bad, but we found they had one of the older trans tune calibrations from OEM. Moved all the 2026 data to their stock tune and did a fresh performance tune with the new trans and they were ecstatic with the results.

I really think 90% of people's issues with the 10R80 are either trans adaptive related or related to the older calibrations. Ford has a few generations of calibrations since 2024 and the 26 cars are by far the best. Even comparing my 25 to my 26, there are a load of changes that seem to be in an effort to smooth out part and heavy throttle shifting - NOT wide open throttle tho. Thats all pretty standard across the years. Just that low to mid/heavy load/throttle zones where the car is trying to hold the power, but not trying to slam gears up and down.

The over the air updates do not incorporate the newer settings?

 

[krisk]

June in Georgia did not have this result for me. All day long, five sessions, nothing overheated. I did not, however, actually look at my transmission temperature, so that is all I can say about it.

An interesting observation I have made is I see the highest transmission temperatures in cooler weather. I have no idea if that has something to do with the cooling fans or some other reason, but it’s what I’ve found. It was pretty warm on Saturday at Road Atlanta, and I didn’t see transmission temps over 210. The highest temperature I have seen was a cool day in November.

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